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Video 24 - A Maiden F1 Victory // BMW take their first win with a convincing 1-2 finish in Canada

Published by Mr. C

Last weekend in Canada there was a new man standing upon the top step of the podium, Robert Kubica. It was also the first time his team BMW Sauber F1 had won a Grand Prix and they did it in style with a perfect 1-2.

Formula One has been dominated by just two teams and a handful of drivers for the past 18 months, so we figured this was an event worth documenting. In the process, we catch up with Kubica and teammate Heidfeld along with big boss man Mario Theissen on their way back from the podium celebrations. But don't you go pretending that a gutted Nick Heidfeld doesn't make you want to cry, you know he does.

F1 has a new top team to mix up the status quo and we're really looking forward to the second half of the season. As Jesse Malin aptly puts it: "A new generation, and the whole world's shaking". Couldn't have put it better ourselves.

Music played

  • Jesse Malin, Don't Let Them Take You Down (Beautiful Day)

Special thanks go to BMW Motorsport GmbH and ICNsport for the use of their video footage and photographs.




  • my seats were near a nice hole in the fence so I made it to the start finish line just in time for the MUMM moments :-)

    must say that Kubica was the guy with the biggest support in the crowd during the whole weekend. may have something to do with what happened last year but also it was amazing how many Polish fans were there in Montreal

    and right after the race they all moved to a sports bar in the Casino Montreal to watch the football game :-)

    it was very funny to see how the group of Polish Kubica fans did their best to get a big group of English Hamilton fans drunk with unbelievably large shots of vodka :-) did not take them long to succeed ...

  • I have a serious "man crush" on this team. There isn't an aspect of the BMW-Sauber team that I have not liked. Not since my beloved Lotus, has there been a team I've liked so much. Here are a few reasons why:

    1: Two years ago today, they did a demonstration drive on the Nurburgring. On a coolness scale from 1 to 10, that is billion.

    2: Dr. Mario Theissen is probably the best team manager we have seen come into the sport in a long time. Unlike his counterparts, he has a very low-key profile. He and Peter Sauber really set the tone for that team with a very professional atmosphere and very calm logic to everything they do.

    3: Yes they are a factory team, but they don't spend the resources of Honda, Toyota, McLaren, or Ferrari do. Like Williams, they work smart and hard to get what they achieved.

    4: Robert Kubica... enough has been written about him this week. He is the flavor of the month and deserves every bit of the attention. I actually really like Nick Heidfeld and think he deserves some love. He is having a good year as well with two podiums and only one race where he wasn't in the top ten. He really deserves a victory. Nine years in the sport without a win is cruel and this year might be his best chance.

    5: Finally, there is an old-school, by-the-bootstraps, blue-collar feel to this team. Everyone on the team just seems to appreciate everything in F1 so much more. It the type of team that gets in the headlines for the right reasons. They let their results speak for themselves.

    I am just happy for them and their win has put me on cloud nine this week.

  • I am just happy for them and their win has put me on cloud nine this week.

    y'know, as glad as i am that peter sauber's old team is in good hands, i do wish bmw hand found a way to work with williams (or vice-versa).

    a much better fit than toyota, methinks.

  • Two years ago today, they did a demonstration drive on the Nurburgring. On a coolness scale from 1 to 10, that is billion.

    But minus a billion for just tootling around and not going for a time.Yes I can understand that going for an all out hot lap was never going to work, would it not have been great to let the drivers have a couple of timed laps to see what a modern F1 car could do, even if the drivers had order not to push to hard? What a wasted oportunity.

    Dr. Mario Theissen is probably the best team manager we have seen come into the sport in a long time

    I thought he was quite devisive at Williams - his own agenda got in the way of what could have been a world class partnership. But he has impressed me at BMW Sauber so far. He has kep his head down and kept out of the spot light. Now the results are coming, Mario could find himself under more media scrunity - it will be interesting to see how he dealis with this.

    y’know, as glad as i am that peter sauber’s old team is in good hands, i do wish bmw hand found a way to work with williams (or vice-versa).

    The problem Willams has was when the Willims - BMW parnership was at it's most competitive - then had an on-form Monsta Montoya, a good chassis and the possibly the best engines on the grid - but they were on the wrong tyre. The Schumacher - Ferrari - Bridgestone combination was just unbeatable. Then Williams produced a couple of duff cars, and the partnership ended.

  • There isn’t an aspect of the BMW-Sauber team that I have not liked. Not since my beloved Lotus, has there been a team I’ve liked so much. Here are a few reasons why:

    The old Sauber Team was always my favourite. I think the spirit of Peter Sauber lives on in the new team. What has interested me is in my country BMW is hugely image-concious as a brand, in fact it is probably the most aspired car brand to own. Yet BMW seems to have let their F1 team do things pretty much in their own way. They did not even drop the name Sauber (despite the company's long racing association with their most direct competitor).

    When they do publicity stunts, generally they are interesting and generates more involvement e.g. Heidfeld's Snow Run at St Mortiz.

    I also thought it was generous of Felipe Massa to congratulate the BMW Sauber team on their victory.

    So I agree with you Dan, it seems to be the team to love. I think we might also see a Red Bull Renaissance - again good to see David Coulthard showing respect to the BMW Sauber drivers after the race.

  • y’know, as glad as i am that peter sauber’s old team is in good hands, i do wish bmw hand found a way to work with williams (or vice-versa).

    I thought he was quite devisive at Williams - his own agenda got in the way of what could have been a world class partnership.

    In there is a story - possibly there were to alike as teams. I have always been surprised that the Macca-Mercedes partnership has survived.

  • opps, sorry for the spelling mistakes. Forgot to proof read

    should have said:

    The problem Willams had, was back when the Willims - BMW partnership was at it’s most competitive - they had an on-form Monsta Montoya, a good chassis and the possibly the best engines on the grid - but they were on the wrong tyre. The Schumacher - Ferrari - Bridgestone combination was just unbeatable. Then Williams produced a couple of duff cars, and the partnership ended.

    Still, at least the Williams BMW partnership did achieve a win at the Le Mans 24h. (Franck Montagny was second fasted in first qualifying for this year's event by the way)

  • What has interested me is in my country BMW is hugely image-concious as a brand, in fact it is probably the most aspired car brand to own.

    If you want to survive a car crash - buy Fiat Uno, if you want to die in a car crash - buy a BMW and crash it against Fiat Uno. I drove a couple of BMWs myself - they suck, heavy thirsty tractors, rear-wheel drive is no good.

    On the driver front there's a new development - Ant Davidson is testing today for Honda (again! back to black for him) and Romain Grosjean appeared in R28 since di Grassi was offloaded to GP2.

    Now only Taku's fate remains unknown.

  • When they do publicity stunts, generally they are interesting and generates more involvement e.g. Heidfeld’s Snow Run at St Mortiz.

    agreed. although i think kubica's going back to poland again this year, so it'll be interesting to see if they come up with something unique for him to do there.

    Franck Montagny was second fasted in first qualifying for this year’s event by the way

    yay! that'll make the girl's day.

    second fastest is good right? or does he have some kind of massive car advantage?

  • second fastest is good right? or does he have some kind of massive car advantage?

    Peugeot are tipped as favourites for the win in the Audi-Pug diesel battle. It will be close, but I reckon the ex-f1 trio could pull it off :D

  • So I agree with you Dan, it seems to be the team to love. I think we might also see a Red Bull Renaissance - again good to see David Coulthard showing respect to the BMW Sauber drivers after the race.

    Absolutely... Red Bull is the next team I want to see with a victory, Webber deserves at least one and/or DC winning a final grand prix would be a nice cherry on the top for a career. Plus the after-party would be absolutely insane.

    BTW: Does anyone know any English language streams or live updates of LeMans this weekend? Thanks

  • second fastest is good right? or does he have some kind of massive car advantage?

    The Peugeots are by far the quickest thing in Qualifying - to the extent that Audi appear to have given up on getting anywhere near the front row of the grid, and are concentrating on preparing for the race.

    However the pace of the Peugeots have just been staggering.

    The old circuit used to feature this long straight - 3.5 miles or more long. the cars would blast down there at 230, 240mph (this section of the track is on a public road). In 1990 the FIA forced the organises to put two chicanes onto the straight to break it up. The cars still do over 220mph in the straight parts, but now they don't sit at that speed for long periods.

    This year, the Peugeots have been putting in the sort of lap times we saw before the chicanes were put in - something I never thought we would see.

    Franck is only 1 tenth of the quickest time (set by Stephane Sarrazin in sister car). If you are interested, the race is being shown on British Eurosport in this country, and starts 2pm Saturday. Final Qualifying is at 8pm tonight (although it might be wet).

  • BTW: Does anyone know any English language streams or live updates of LeMans this weekend? Thanks

    Yep. There is full English commentary at www.radiolemans.com

    British Eurosport is showing the race on TV. I will be watching the Eurosport, and listening to Radio Le Mans

  • Fitting tribute guys! :D Nice work! Aww Heidfeld! I now want him to be the one to get the next BMW win! Just to make it fair ;) I can't wait untill France, with Hamilton at least 10th there is a great chance it will be Ferrari and BMW on the podium! ooo this season is just getting better and better! :D

  • I'd like Nico or Heikki to be the 100th winners...

  • I’d like Nico or Heikki to be the 100th winners…

    ooo I would love Heikki or Nico to be the 100th winner! ok I would prefere it to be Jenson, but considering that it would have to be one seriously crazy race for that to happen Heikki or Nico would be fitting replacements ;)

  • Jenson is already a winner...

    He may have been the 96th winner...

    Are Felipe, Mr H and Robert the only "new" winners since Jense?...

  • Jenson is already a winner…

    ahaha thats a good piont. That came out wrong....basically i want Jens to get another win ;)

    Are Felipe, Mr H and Robert the only “new” winners since Jense?…

    erm yes i think so. Do you think we will get another 'new' winner this season? I hope so. I hope we have many more Canadas and Monacos this season :D

  • If we get more races like Monaco and Canada I will slit my wrists.... or go into terminal decline at least...

    Malaysia and Barcelona though...that'd be fine...

    A perfect rest of season is Kimi winning them all....

    And Lewis being roundly beaten by Hekki....

  • If we get more races like Monaco and Canada I will slit my wrists…. or go into terminal decline at least…

    aww. I was just thinking exciting races where the result is not predictable. Like perhaps Kimi coming from a bad quali to winnning ;) it would give a chance for Heikki or Nico to get a win in ;) Maybe Jenson would do well too... well better anyway, top 5 finish would be nice...

    And Lewis being roundly beaten by Hekki….

    ahahaha i would LOVE that! Heikki is on my favorates list! ;) just cause of his optimism! and Lewis....well after this weekend i would just love to see how the British press would handle it. Also i have this theory that Steve Rider and James Allen would explode/implode.

  • Do you think we will get another ‘new’ winner this season? I hope so.

    doesn't seem out of the question does it?

    two guys in top teams without a win to their name, judging by the past 3 months of racing anyhow. i wonder what the odds are?

  • two guys in top teams without a win to their name, judging by the past 3 months of racing anyhow. i wonder what the odds are?

    Given Heikki's not so good form recently i would not imagine its too high for him. And with Lewis falling behind in the Championship, I'm not thinking Mclaren are gonna let Heikki win is Lewis is at the front too. but that could be just be cause of my dislike for Ron and Lewis effecting my judgement.

  • Given Heikki’s not so good form recently i would not imagine its too high for him.

    true, so are we thinking it's more likely to be nick to make the win first?

    ps. are you exam free now?

  • If Heikki's got any sense he'll be laughing at Lewis and pinning up pics of the accident on the motorhome...

    He'll be putting a big sign on the back of his car indicating that Lewis should crash at the side and not into him....

    He'll suggest Lewis should take out 3rd party insurance...

    He'll suggest wildly divergent pit strategies to ensure they are never in the pit lane together...

    He'll buy him a pair of glasses....

    He'll put a copy of the rules open at the pit lane procedure in Lewis's cockpit...

    But he won't do these things as he's too nice...

    What a pity...

  • He’ll be putting a big sign on the back of his car indicating that Lewis should crash at the side and not into him….

    montoya / williams did that once before didn't they? 'keep your distance' or something :)

  • true, so are we thinking it’s more likely to be nick to make the win first?

    I would like it to be Heikki! :D make that love it to be Heikki. I think the smile on his face would be wider than any smile seen before ;) Not sure it will be Nick first....will BMW want to get behind Kubica now? I mean he is realistically they title hope. Isn't he? I mean surely It would be really difficult to get very far with treating them equally....

    ps. are you exam free now?

    YEP! :D ehehe nearly 4 months of freedom and f1 to look forward too! :D ooo its a lovely feeling i have been stressed with revision and Coursework since about January so its a great feeling!

  • ahaha LadySnowCat you just made me giggle soo much! That sounds like something the renault pit cre would do it Piquet did that!

  • will BMW want to get behind Kubica now?

    with the greatest respect to the team, they're not ready yet, are they? i would assume they'll keep both drivers equal and see what the rest of the year brings. the car isn't able to challenge for wins purely on speed just yet.

    nearly 4 months of freedom and f1 to look forward too!

    that's what we like to hear.

  • I have just heard from a friend whose Silverstone tickets have arrived that they have a Macca on them...

    I have suggested that she ring up and say that there has been a mistake....

    We don't want the weekend ruined by a hit and run driver...

  • i would assume they’ll keep both drivers equal and see what the rest of the year brings. the car isn’t able to challenge for wins purely on speed just yet.

    I look forward to Heidfelds win this year then :D

    that’s what we like to hear.

    :D I have just realised Goodwood is a month away :D I have a feeling it's going to be one of the highights to my holiday, I'm sure it will be worth the early start, and 2 hour drive to get there :D As you know I'm seeing the Renault on Saturday. Apparently there will be some representatives and tech people there to answer questions, any questions you want me to ask? and do you want any photos I take? :D Can't believe its my first time of taking pics of an F1 car. Apparently we can get pretty close so hopefully I can get some 'arty' shots! :D

  • and do you want any photos I take?

    absolutely, thank you.

    if you want to mail christine with the stories of your day that'd be great too (or you could phone, up to you). you know us, we live for this kinda stuff :)

  • absolutely, thank you.

    if you want to mail christine with the stories of your day that’d be great too (or you could phone, up to you). you know us, we live for this kinda stuff

    aha a story? blimey! ok i will see what i can do ;) maybe i will ring...not sure what there will be to talk about. It's mainly going to be me oggling over an f1 car ;) tbh I'm still not sure why the hell they are gonna be there. But im not complaining ;) . However if they rev the engine or anything i may record it. :D

  • It is very unlikely that they will start the engine. Demo cars generally have a dummy engine only. It takes so much effort to start an engine that they will only start one if they are going to drive it.

  • Dan,

    Speed TV are showing Le Mans live so you should be able to watch it on www.tvunetworks.com on the Wheels channel which is Speed.

    The other option is to find a foreign language stream and listen to Radio Le Mans on http://www.radiolemans.com/

  • Le Mans is this weekend? Darn it, I'm away and won't be able to watch it (not that I can get TVU to work anyway :( )

    I so hope that Quick Nick is our next new winner. All the way through the post race conference I was praying for him not to cry, 'cos he looked about *this* close to doing so.

    BTW, did you guys manage to find a vid of that Vettel/Marshall incident at Montreal? I went looking for it, but couldn't find anything and I'd love to see it.

  • BTW, did you guys manage to find a vid of that Vettel/Marshall incident at Montreal? I went looking for it, but couldn’t find anything and I’d love to see it.

    shoot, sorry, thanks for the reminder.

    uploaded here:

    www.drop.io/sidep…t/marshal-falling

  • I so hope that Quick Nick is our next new winner.

    I hope he is, if no other reason, he is the least egotistical of all the drivers. I remember a Renault F1 podcast with Heikki who said there is no ways he will be a second driver. Robert has already implied he should be considered their #1 driver. Nick has been around a long time (nine seasons), he has never not returned good results (even in the Jordan he scored points), and always been loyal to the team.

    When McLaren took Kimi on, Nick had returned a better season (more points) and had been a previous official test driver for McLaren Mercedes for a year so that must have been a big disappointment. When he teamed-up with Felipe Massa he score 75% more points than the Brazilian. Both in 2006 and 2007 he outscored Robert Kubica. In the European Grand Prix (Nürburgring) he and Kubica collided on the opening lap, he recovered and overtook Kubica on the final lap to finish sixth, despite making six pitstops during the race. Nick is still the driver that has completed the most number of GPs without a win. Further I think much of BMW-Sauber's success has been due to Nick's inputs (renowned to be good at providing technical inputs like Alex Wurtz).

    Has he not done enough to deserve to be the 100th GP winner?

    The next most deserving driver for the 100th GP winner would be Mark Webber, one of GP's most unlucky drivers, however, when Nick was teamed with Mark Webber he was faster but had to miss out the last four races of the season (he missed the Italian and Belgian Grands Prix due to injuries suffered in a testing accident then scheduled to come back for Brazil, he was injured again when hit by a motorbike when out cycling).

    Even this year he lost almost certain fifth position (8 points) in Spain and Monaco due to Safety Car and Alonso ramming him) and got fastest lap at Sepang and was close to Kimi's fastest lap.

    Sadly it is BMW-Sauber's best strategy (in terms of scoring points) to concentrate on Robert (and to make him number 1) for the rest of the season and sadly Nick will remain the sport's Cinderella.

    To LadySnowcat - you want Kimi to win every single race left in the season - it would kill F1 as a spectator sport.

  • Sorry made a mistake - in above post meant to say second fastest lap (after Kimi) at Canada GP.

    Here are the six fastest laps at the Canda GP.

    01 K. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:17.387

    02 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:17.430

    03 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:17.506

    04 R. Kubica BMW 1:17.539

    05 N. Rosberg Williams 1:17.977

    06 F. Massa Ferrari 1:18.006

  • Canada GP slowest fastest laps

    18 N. Piquet Renault 1:19.239

    19 J. Button Honda 1:19.352

    20 A. Sutil Force India 1:20.666

    Yikes did Button have a lousy race, with Piquet not much better.

  • Yikes did Button have a lousy race, with Piquet not much better.

    considering the guy he followed out of the pit lane scored a point. yes he did!

    totally off topic, but in case you're not a facebook(er) the legend that is f1wolf, has a great post you just gotta read:

    http://www.f1wolf.com/2008/06/walk-driv...ula-1-track-part-3.html

  • totally off topic, but in case you’re not a facebook(er) the legend that is f1wolf, has a great post you just gotta read:

    the legend :-) thank you me !

  • The next most deserving driver for the 100th GP winner would be Mark Webber, one of GP’s most unlucky drivers, however, when Nick was teamed with Mark Webber he was faster

    I would love to see Mark win. Very overdue.

    When they were at Williams, Mark and Nick were very evenly matched. Mark was better in qualifying, and Nick was luckier in the race.

    How unlucky can one guy be:

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=O9EU8JH03gE

    but had to miss out the last four races of the season (he missed the Italian and Belgian Grands Prix due to injuries suffered in a testing accident then scheduled to come back for Brazil, he was injured again when hit by a motorbike when out cycling).

    That was the official line. His signature on a BMW contract may have also been a contributory factor.

  • How unlucky can one guy be:

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=O9EU8JH03gE

    that was webber?? small world :)

    That was the official line. His signature on a BMW contract may have also been a contributory factor.

    yeah, i'd second that.

  • How unlucky can one guy be

    there's this one too.

    www.youtube.com/w…rwO9Ac04&NR=1

  • Webber had two flips that weekend and so that he would not feel victimised Peter Dumbreck had one as well. Of course being Scottish his was a bit better.

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=yRTpDEvQsTc

  • That was the official line. His signature on a BMW contract may have also been a contributory factor.

    That was rumoured, but would Williams or BMW have stopped him racing and which one?

    Personally I think Mark and Nick are fairly equally talented but Mark the better qualifier and Nick the better racer, plus Nick has an amazing ability to bring the car home. Had they the opportunities of driving for Ferrari or McLaren they would have won a fistful of races. Certainly in earlier days they were much better than Felipe - and look how well Felipe is doing now - equal with F1 superstar!

    Mark was better in qualifying, and Nick was luckier in the race.

    Not altogether true Nick was genuinely faster in many races and got ahead on speed, he also got pole position once which Mark never got.

    Guys like Nico and Heikke have many many years of racing ahead and to get into the right team (well Heikki is in the right team, or build the team up like Heidfeld has done at BMW Sauber). Nick and Mark are towards the end of their careers with not so much to show.

  • I know nothing of LeMan, but it seems Mercedes always seem to be flipping. Poor Mark. Am I correct that although the Peugeots are far faster the Audis do not need to pit for fuel as frequently so will still win.

  • I looked it up and it was the same year (Mark and Peter) with the flipping Mercedes. Here is an extract from Wikipedia...

    Later on Mercedes claimed that a miscalculation during aerodynamic development had a role in the crashes as air was literally lifting the car off the ground from the underside.

    The surviving #6 car was never raced again, and it is not shown at the Mercedes-Benz Museum.

    I really like the fact it was banned from being shown in the M-B Museum.

    If I was the museum director - I would have the Peter Dumbreck accident on a big projected screen with the car but the message that the driver walked a way unharmed such was the safety of the car.

    Three flips in one weekend of racing - bad engineering.

  • The Peugeots are faster in qualifying where they finished 1, 2(Montagny's car) and 3. Audi finished 4,5 and 7. The Audi is a more proven package and should be more reliable and should race better than they qualified. Those in the know (not me) think that Peugeot are marginal favourites.

    For me I would like to see McNish win for Audi because he has been the best sportscar driver of the last decade but has rarely had any luck at LeMans. He won ten years ago and could easily have added another 4 or 5. Last year his car was leading by 3 and a half laps when it failed.

    I am sure Christine would like to see Montagny win and launch his new marmot mascot after the race.

    OOPS I have just found the following story that says Zonta put the car he shares with Montagny in the wall where it sustained heavy damage. I hope he doesn't meet Christine at Goodwood.

    www.crash.net/mot…lso_hit_wall.html

  • Thanks Steven, pity Zonta put the car in the wall - I think that is the one that Christian Klien is also to drive.

    I seem to remember that one year (not that long ago) that Bentleys won and another year further back a Mazda Rotary did it.

    Will the Peugeots last - I remember their F1 engine always breaking down?

  • Me being somewhat of a self-confessed motorsport anorak, I can tell you:

    The Bentley win was 2003, although technically is was another Audi win since the engine used in the Speed 8 was the exact same one in the R8. Brit Guy Smith was among the trio, as was 7-time Le Mans winner Tom Kristensen.

    The Mazda rotary win was by the awesome and legendary 787B, driven by Johnny Herbert, Bertand Gachot and Volker Wiedler. Ironically tighter restrictions were put in place for rotary engines at Le Mans making it theoretically impossible to run them.

    Plus, looking back at Peugeot, their last major sportscar success was at Le Mans in 1993, when they ran the simply stunning 905, which for me is THE greatest sports-prototype ever. The charismatic wail of its F1-inspired V10 engine plus its great looks means it will always have a place in my heart. Just hearing the engine note at high speed sends shivers down my spine :D

    There, history lesson over. Class dismissed :P

  • Thanks Scott, had not realised that Peugeot won in 1993. Seems a bit hard to have ruled out rotary engines through regulations. The only thing I really knew is the Ford GT40s winning year after year followed by the legendary Porsche 917 (in Can Am version was said to develop close to 1600 bhp in qualifying tune and was a flat-12). However, my one bit of history is the tradition of spraying champagne by the victor. This was started by Dan Gurney after his Le Mans victory in Ford GT40 in the late sixties, he apparently saw Ford CEO Henry Ford and team owner Carroll Shelby and their spouses and instead of taking a swig shook it up and sprayed everyone with it including journalist that had not predicted their success.

  • The Mazda rotary win was by the awesome and legendary 787B, driven by Johnny Herbert, Bertand Gachot and Volker Wiedler. Ironically tighter restrictions were put in place for rotary engines at Le Mans making it theoretically impossible to run them.

    That was in 1991 - The year Michael Schumacher took part for Mercedes.

    The Mazada was actually given a Rules break by the ACO. The car was awesomly loud (in a high pitched F1 kinda way), very reliable, but it was not that competitive. Mazada entered it under the american IMSA rules - the only one running in that class, and they were content to run around, win their class and go home.

    But in 1991, the FIA was trying to change the Group C rules (which were esentially 'You can run any engine you like, but you only have a set amount of fuel for the race) - and mandate F1 type normally aspriated 3 liture V10s. Needless trying to get these engines to last for 24 hours was difficult, and in 1991 they just were not ready, and all retired.

    Mercedes and Jaguar reverted to their old cars for the race, which were allowed in, ut were gived a big weight penaulty. Mazada, runnning in the IMSA class did not have a weight panaulty.

    No one thought they were a threat for outright victory, but Mazada did their sums, hired three ex F1 drivers, and told them the thrash the car for 24 hours. Mercedes were very fast, but one by one hit problems. The Mazada picked of the Jaguars, and came through for a surprise win.

  • peeps, i'm loving the education. i know very little about le mans, but i'm learning quickly.

    for christine's view, don't forget (i forgot):

    http://iheartfranck.wordpress.com/

  • The Bentley win was 2003, although technically is was another Audi win since the engine used in the Speed 8 was the exact same one in the R8

    Bentley car, Audi engine.

    It was a 'Bentley' win in the same way 1995 was a 'McLaren' win rather than a 'BMW' (engine) win.

    Thanks Scott, had not realised that Peugeot won in 1993

    They won in 1992 as well - with Derek Warick and Mark Blundell driving.

    The Peugeot team which won in 92 and 93 was run by none other than 'Jean Toldt'.

  • peeps, i’m loving the education. i know very little about le mans, but i’m learning quickly.

    I found this on utube:

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=Ls08-F6I5Ss

  • The Bentley car was just a rebodied Audi.

    The Peugeot 905s were amazing cars. I saw Derek Warwick drive one at Mgny Cours and one of the doors got sucked right off the car. But the classic Group C car has to be the Porsche 956/962 which dominated but in numbers and in results. The 962 was a modified 956. I think it was something to do with protecting the drivers feet. I assume the driver was moved back in the car as they were in F1.

    And of course there were all those amazing Jags.

  • Thanks Mattw for the stuff on the Mazda rotary - very interesting. When I was a small kid I remembered seeing a Mazda rotary race in a local endurance race (they were out from Japan). This car was just awesome they way it screamed passed all of the other saloon and some sports cars to take victory in terms of the index of performance and sixth overall (in the field were sports cars like Ferraris, Chevrons, Lolas and Marchs). The race was won by Clay Reggazoni and Arturo Merzario in a Ferrari 312. Jody Scheckter, Jochen Mass, Brian Redman and Jacky Ickx were some of the famous drivers in the race. Still remember the amazing Mazda rotary.

  • I looked it up and it was the same year (Mark and Peter) with the flipping Mercedes. Here is an extract from Wikipedia…

    Yes it was the same year. Mercedes have not been back since, and probably will not go back for a long time yet (it was a Mercedes that was launched into the crowd in 1955, resulting in the biggest motor sport accident in history)

    A real shame, as that 1999 Mercedes was a crazy car. It made this superb American rumbling sound (imagine a race tuned Harley Davidson * 100). The car would bounce all over the track, and look a real handful through the corners. But once the driver had fought the car through the corner, it was 'Houston we had lift off' as the car would just explode down the straight.

  • The Bentley car was just a rebodied Audi.

    No, it was built as a Bentley - running to slightly different rules as the Audi. The Bentley did not have the ‘hot sawp’ rear end that the Audi R9 pioneered.

    It was built and run by Apex Motorsports (Run by the sadly missed Richard Lloyd). They built and ran the 'Coupe' Audi which raced in 1999, and the Bentley project was born from this, but the Bentley designs had moved on quite a way from the 'toe in the water' Audi coupe. The original plan was to build their own engine, but they were not given the budget.

  • The car was awesomly loud (in a high pitched F1 kinda way.)

    I've always thought it sounded like a highly strung Champ Car. Amazing sound, one of my favourite engine notes along with the 905 and the Audi Quattro rally car.

  • Thanks for that vid, nicely done compilation. I'm always glad to see new things happen in F1.

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