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China 2011 - The race // Who will take victory at the Shanghai International Circuit?

Published by Christine Blachford

Hazy days in China
Hazy days in ChinaCredit: Clive Mason/Getty Images

Although qualifying was somewhat predictable in places, and certainly provided only half the excitement we were looking for, the result has left the potential for a really good race.

Webber is starting from way back on the grid, and although his KERS troubles may not afford him a great start, he has the car under him to get through the grid.

Also, Renault will be one to watch at the start, as both drivers are somewhat out of position and have known to rocket forward on the first lap.

The race will begin at 8am GMT+1 with the Factbyte Factbox ready to rock and roll an hour beforehand.

Statistics

moderate

Shanghai International Circuit, Sunday

20℃

  • Low 11℃
  • Humidity 52%

Sunny intervals

2010 Session Results
PosDriverTeamTimeLaps
1J ButtonMcLaren1:46:42.163
2L HamiltonMcLaren+1.5
3N RosbergMercedes+9.4
4F AlonsoFerrari+11.8
5R KubicaRenault+22.2

Predictions

Chi 2011 Race: Where will Mark Webber finish this race, from 18th position?

  • In the points

    89%
  • Out of the points

    0%
  • Won't finish

    11%

9 votes




  • Hello everyone. :D

  • Hiya. I thought Vettel might win this, but then I booted up my PC and saw a pic of a McLaren... so...

  • Hiya. I thought Vettel might win this, but then I booted up my PC and saw a pic of a McLaren... so...

    I asked my son who will win today, he said Sebastian Vettel, there it goes, one can't argue with him

  • I asked my son who will win today, he said Sebastian Vettel, there it goes, one can't argue with him

    :D

  • Good Morning, already messed up by thinking that the race started an hour earlier than it does.

    Still. I dont think Vettel will win this one. Also expecting first corner carnage...

  • Still. I dont think Vettel will win this one. Also expecting first corner carnage...

    It's about time we had some, they've all been far too professional so far :)

  • I think the nasty hot humid cloudy summer officially arrived today. The only good thing about that is that nobody is complaining about me spoiling the whole afternoon by staying home watching the race

  • I have a blanket and a cup of Xmas tea since it doesn't require milk, I am all set to go :) And silently wishing I'd taken the multiple packets of creamer from our Malaysian hotel room :)

  • I have a blanket and a cup of Xmas tea since it doesn't require milk, I am all set to go :) And silently wishing I'd taken the multiple packets of creamer from our Malaysian hotel room :)

    no tea really requires tea, only people who like to have tea with milk require it :-)

  • no tea really requires tea, only people who like to have tea with milk require it :-)

    I am one of those people :D

  • no tea really requires tea

    no tea really requires milk ...

  • I am one of those people :D

    I am one of those who can do well with a piece of lemon :-)

  • no tea really requires milk ...

    Guess I am one of those people who does ;)

  • Now I've started browsing the tea shop web page to see if they have anything new to try. I think I need to hit up the Easter range. mmm, creme brulee tea.

  • oh my lord... sooo tired. morning all.

  • I definitely need milk in tea :)

    Hi Amy, are we still on for dinner tomorrow night in Brunswick St?

  • Hi Amy, are we still on for dinner tomorrow night in Brunswick St?

    ooh yes I hope so :)

  • morning!! my cat and i are ready for an epic race. come on jenson!

  • ooh yes I hope so :)

    Ace :D

  • Now I've started browsing the tea shop web page to see if they have anything new to try. I think I need to hit up the Easter range. mmm, creme brulee tea.

    i am drinking something that calls itself apple cinnamon tea, goog stuff i must say

  • I am getting buffering on the static BBC message thing... not a good sign

  • ooh I hit play at just the right time :D

  • Morning all.

    I never understood why people put milk in tea. That's like adding Bovril to orange juice

  • morning!! my cat and i are ready for an epic race. come on jenson!

    Aww Gem! Penny is sunbaking next to me in the afternoon sun :)

  • I hate when Jake gets all faux dramatic

  • f1 does kung fu?

  • f1 does kung fu?

    LOLS!

  • Aww Gem! Penny is sunbaking next to me in the afternoon sun :)

    awwww!! hehe Gem is sitting on the little table i have my laptop on :)

  • ok, i am switching to bandwidth saving mode ...

  • awwww!! hehe Gem is sitting on the little table i have my laptop on :)

    Awww! Best! :D

  • monacoooo!! i miss the monaco GP..

  • Where is Eddie?

  • Where is Eddie?

    Who cares? Morning everyone!

  • monacoooo!! i miss the monaco GP..

    has Lukeh spoken to Ari recently?

  • Morning guys, phew! Its early.

  • Morning guys, phew! Its early.

    I totally must have headpinged you with my comment

  • Now all we need is for Coulthard to learn how to say that trickiest of names "Heidfeld" and we're golden.

  • This will be Webber's last season I reckon.

  • Hello Jon

  • I like this. Every race should be at this time.

    ahhhh, afternoon cuppa

  • Put your hands up if your family doesn't understand why you wake up so early on a Sunday morning, just to see "those cars..."

    I have to hear those comments every single time there's a Grand Prix in Asia...

    And another thing: FIA reduces the DRS activation zone to 752 metres, instead of the 952 they said before.

  • This will be Webber's last season I reckon.

    he may do a rubens

  • I like this. Every race should be at this time.

    noooooo!

    ahhhh, afternoon cuppa

    that bit is nice, but a 10pm cuppa is lovely too.

  • I totally must have headpinged you with my comment

    :)

    I have indeed but the travel costs and accommodation are a bit too expensive sadly and it was all talked about a bit too late which is a shame. Although Ari has stayed in contact so we'll see if anything else happens :)

  • that bit is nice, but a 10pm cuppa is lovely too.

    true enough

  • I have indeed but the travel costs and accommodation are a bit too expensive sadly and it was all talked about a bit too late which is a shame. Although Ari has stayed in contact so we'll see if anything else happens :)

    aww I hope something awesome still happens for you :)

  • Morning all.

    Bleh. My timings are all to cock. I thought the race was starting 7 minutes ago...

  • steven will have to think of a new adjective for diresta

  • steven will have to think of a new adjective for diresta

    THe stress is terrible. Imagine if I get it slightly wrong

  • THe stress is terrible. Imagine if I get it slightly wrong

    There are only so many words in the english language!

  • THe stress is terrible. Imagine if I get it slightly wrong

    I think you went a bit too hard too early

  • There are only so many words in the english language!

    Use Danish ones!

  • Ooh the cars move now :)

  • There are only so many words in the english language!

    I await the day when we hear odd Scottish terms we don't understand.

  • steven will have to think of a new adjective for diresta

    No...

    Just some new ones for Sutil....

  • aww I hope something awesome still happens for you :)

    *cough* silverstone *cough*....

  • Moooorning :)

  • Bleh. My timings are all to cock. I thought the race was starting 7 minutes ago...

    Way too early. I only got up for this so I could sleep well tonight!

  • I think you went a bit too hard too early

    If he keeps improving I have a problem. It's like starting to sing in too high a pitch. I am going to be straining to hit the top note. Maybe need a sneaky key change as expectation increases

  • I'd love to know why Webber is letting Red Bull hamstring him?

  • Maybe need a sneaky key change as expectation increases

    :-)

  • If he keeps improving I have a problem. It's like starting to sing in too high a pitch. I am going to be straining to hit the top note. Maybe need a sneaky key change as expectation increases

    time to consult the thesaurus. How to say phenomenal in 37 different ways.

  • If he keeps improving I have a problem. It's like starting to sing in too high a pitch. I am going to be straining to hit the top note. Maybe need a sneaky key change as expectation increases

    I don't wanna go too crazy here but... there may have to be two words involved

  • Hope Webber hasn't gone for too short a 7th gear or he could be in for a frustrating day

  • I don't wanna go too crazy here but... there may have to be two words involved

    double phenomenal?

  • engine noise time...

  • Maybe need a sneaky key change as expectation increases

    ooooo.start rumors that schumi is looking over his shoulder!

  • time to consult the thesaurus. How to say phenomenal in 37 different ways.

    I may end up crowd sourcing

    I don't wanna go too crazy here but... there may have to be two words involved

    That's against the rules

  • Looks like Ferrari are warming up uniquely, FBFB. or maybe it's the new McLaren overalls and ron Dennis has finally lost it.

  • gah! lag, buffering, lag, buffering.

    why does this happen the day eddie is not there?!

  • wow i spy lee two weeks in a row....

  • ooooo.start rumors that schumi is looking over his shoulder!

    I think if the season progresses as it is going that he will replace Schumacher next year. Even Ross Brawn can't spend another season saying that Schumacher will come good

  • OOoh:

    @willbuxton Checked out the ticket prices on my way in today. 3280RMB, that's over £300 a ticket, making it one of the most expensive races of the year

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  • Nick Heidfeld: "I'm not in F1 to twy and pwove myself, I'm in F1 to twy and win"...

  • I'd love to know why Webber is letting Red Bull hamstring him?

    leg... shoulder... maybe he's trying to collect the full list of injuries?

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    That would be crazy when the dashboard is available

  • Lee, ask him if there's any fun in germany!

  • 2:14am, you are dark, chilly and rainy.

    Good morning.

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    well yes, I was.

    oops

  • 2:14am, you are dark, chilly and rainy.

    Morning

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    I won't let you take my doohickey away from me!

  • race nick, rrrrace

  • I won't let you take my doohickey away from me!

    Let's not make him angry this early in the morning!

  • 2:14am, you are dark, chilly and rainy.

    I've checked the script for the race and it'll be worth the wake up :)

  • My first live F1 race of the season. (yawn)

  • Let's not make him angry this early in the morning!

    It's OK, I have FBFB on another screen <3

  • I've checked the script for the race and it'll be worth the wake up :)

    excellent

  • what is it with Renault and making loud noises on the BBC?

    More importantly, pineapple.

  • It's the pineapple man

  • Breakfast calls. Back later.

  • how many screens does the FBFB think I have?

  • My first live F1 race of the season. (yawn)

    Same.

    *too out of it to yawn yet.

  • It's the pineapple man

    Every time I see Boulier (sp?) now I think of that pineapple. :)

  • hehehehe ant!!

  • Ant looked mightily confused

  • Ant looked mightily confused

    How do you get the world feed?

  • how many screens does the FBFB think I have?

    Hehehe

    Is there any way to make the dashboard into 2 columns without zooming out and making the font too tiny?

  • how many screens does the FBFB think I have?

    hehe

    Same here.

  • How do you get the world feed?

    No idea, am looking at the FBFFBF :)

  • No idea, am looking at the FBFFBF :)

    FBBFB, even

  • their grandstand has a starbucks. Why did I go to Malaysia?

  • Bah!

  • Is there any way to make the dashboard into 2 columns without zooming out and making the font too tiny?

    Make the browser wider.

  • Danger! High Voltage! :D

  • They've chopped the DRS zone by 150m?

    Are we supposed to be able to keep up with this?

  • Danger! High Voltage! :D

    What a song

    Although the video will forever traumatise me

  • Are we supposed to be able to keep up with this?

    FBFB will have it on screen #23

  • They've chopped the DRS zone by 150m?

    After they knew the grid?? That just leaves them open to being accused of manipulation.

  • Make the browser wider.

    It's full width!? My screen is pretty wide as well for a laptop. Ho hum.

  • Are we supposed to be able to keep up with this?

    No, with DRS they're supposed to be too fast to keep up with.

    (2am humor)

  • It's full width!? My screen is pretty wide as well for a laptop. Ho hum.

    Ah, then no.

  • It's full width!? My screen is pretty wide as well for a laptop. Ho hum.

    Make the font reeallly small and use your laptop so your face is literally on the screen to read it :P

  • After they knew the grid?? That just leaves them open to being accused of manipulation.

    You think it was an anti-Webber move? :-)

  • It's full width!? My screen is pretty wide as well for a laptop. Ho hum.

    Dashboard needs a wide screen to run two column

  • how many screens does the FBFB think I have?

    i can never fit fbfb and comments on the same screen when i use fbfb in the dashbourd.. so i end up using comments in the dashboard and fbfb in another window.

  • Hello everyone.

  • You think it was an anti-Webber move? :-)

    hehe

    Aren't they all? :)

  • things I have recently learned about Korea #54: they have the longest straight.

  • After they knew the grid?? That just leaves them open to being accused of manipulation.

    oooh

  • You think it was an anti-Webber move? :-)

    I doubt it. I don't think there is manipulation but if they make changes after the grid is set it leaves them open to being accused

  • Mmm mm mmm. cup of tea always goes down well no matter what time it is.

    Bit early for a bacon sarnie though.

  • I've got 2 columns side-by-side on my laptop and its readable. And I've discovered today you can change the length of the boxes!

  • go on jake move the guns

  • I've got 2 columns side-by-side on my laptop and its readable. And I've discovered today you can change the length of the boxes!

    You can also drag them around to a different order if you so desire :)

  • I've got 2 columns side-by-side on my laptop and its readable. And I've discovered today you can change the length of the boxes!

    You can move the boxes around too

  • Aren't they all? :)

    FIA DRS Zone Manager, Helmut Marko today reduced the length...

  • i can never fit fbfb and comments on the same screen when i use fbfb in the dashbourd.. so i end up using comments in the dashboard and fbfb in another window.

    I have FBFB on my iPad but it will move to another window above the doohickey comments when I use the timing app :)

    Stupid narrow laptop.

  • rob is their audience!

  • rob!

  • I have FBFB on my iPad but it will move to another window above the doohickey comments when I use the timing app :)

    Mmm, FBFB on the iPad.

  • ooh one hd have ipad friendly streaming on their website. That'd be handy if I was ever out somewhere with wifi and my ipad and there was a race on and I didn't have my laptop.

    Wait, that never happens.

  • woot woot! jenson!

  • phew, normal mclaren overalls that can't frazzle my mind :)

  • Jenson not wearing red overalls

  • Jenson not wearing red overalls

    Lewis too

  • phew, normal mclaren overalls that can't frazzle my mind :)

    you didn't read my daily!! the overalls are only for the saturday..

  • Jenson not wearing red overalls

    I think the competition is for all the qualifying sessions only, not sure though

  • Hahahaha "Lewis is a little bit short...."

  • Team Lotus appear not to have a Spark commentator this weekend. I like the team and I think it's a fab idea but I don't like how they're doing it :(

  • Mmm, FBFB on the iPad.

    kewl ! didnt know that would work

  • phew, normal mclaren overalls that can't frazzle my mind :)

    any idea whats up with the print overalls and different colous?

  • More Lee?! Woah.

  • any idea whats up with the print overalls and different colous?

    McLaren appear to not be plugging their competition very well :D

  • any idea whats up with the print overalls and different colous?

    it's a fan competition. every saturday of every race.

  • McLaren appear to not be plugging their competition very well :D

    hehe that trip to silverstone will be mine! :P

  • Morning! Woke up about 10 minutes ago but not timeshifting this morning, so if Horner speaks I will have to go off to the loo or to make a coffee...

  • any idea whats up with the print overalls and different colous?

    www.hugoboss.com/…en/#/configurator

  • hehe that trip to silverstone will be mine! :P

    2011: The Year Of Sidepodcasters Winning Trips To Races

  • That dude is basically leaning over lee!

  • 2011: The Year Of Sidepodcasters Winning Trips To Races

    i hope so.. i really hope so..

  • 2011: The Year Of Sidepodcasters Winning Trips To Races

    Fate, I tells ya.

  • That dude is basically leaning over lee!

    some people really have no concept of what is appropriate.

  • from the world feed on my telly the crowd looks alright...ish...

  • ah, thanks all

  • Is it my tv or is this feature a bit magenta in colour?..

  • Is it my tv or is this feature a bit magenta in colour?..

    it is very golden here too

  • Is it my tv or is this feature a bit magenta in colour?..

    Does seem overly purple

  • It's a bit pink now you mention it....

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    Lewis would never do such a thing ;)

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    He did.

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    hes getting as bad as alonso with his whining

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    Yep. Because he can't decide his own strategy he blames the team when they get it wrong.

    Way to get the guys in the garage to back you Lewis.

  • Does seem overly purple

    okay that's good. i was worried.

    yaay that i noticed, otherwise i'd have no hope in the colour darkrooms.

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    no, he just said they didn't do what he asked ;)

  • He did.

    if i wasn't sitting down already i'd need to sit down. :)

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    He is just explaining what is happening. Interesting that he got blamed for not making use of his tyres when he made the right call and the team ignored him. I wonder if they would have done the same had Jenson made that call

  • Mark is being interviewd on my telly, he looks exhausted.

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    Yep. Because he can't decide his own strategy he blames the team when they get it wrong.

    Way to get the guys in the garage to back you Lewis.

    He's leaving McLaren, isn't he? It'll happen sooner or later. Sooner, at this rate.

  • Mark is being interviewd on my telly, he looks exhausted.

    :(

  • wow, lewis really laying into his team.

  • Yep. Because he can't decide his own strategy he blames the team when they get it wrong.

    He did make his own call. That is the point.

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    Sort of I guess. He doesn't seem very whiny. More like he was asked what happened, what are you expecting other than his account of what happened?

  • Jenson will beat Lewis this year. He's better with the tyres and the team I reckon.

  • OK, I loooove these pop-ups. I dont even need to read FBFB!

    Amazing

  • Can someone get up and put the heat on? Thanks.

    #chilly

  • Jenson will beat Lewis this year. He's better with the tyres and the team I reckon.

    There is no way Jenson will beat him over a season

  • Sort of I guess. He doesn't seem very whiny. More like he was asked what happened, what are you expecting other than his account of what happened?

    I don't have any problem with what hes saying.

  • Jenson will beat Lewis this year. He's better with the tyres and the team I reckon.

    I wouldn't say that just yet, but it seems Jenson is running Lewis a lot closer than he should be, really.

  • I wouldn't say that just yet, but it seems Jenson is running Lewis a lot closer than he should be, really.

    #sorrylou

  • No gridwalk. :(

  • Way to get the guys in the garage to back you Lewis.

    tis okay. Jenson could do with a strong season. I keep getting confused between the mclarens thinking Jenson has the red camera case.

  • aww, no gridwalk?

  • I don't have any problem with what hes saying.

    I do. That should have been discussed behind closed doors, not on TV.

  • Jake and DC gridwalk

  • Buxton just called the rookies "youngsters". Um, how old are you, kid? hmm..

  • aww, no gridwalk?

    Jake gridwalk! :)

  • wow, lewis really laying into his team.

    Haven't heard Lewis talking like this before. Actually quite refreshing - to often you get the feeling he isn't saying what he feels, but not then!

  • aww, no gridwalk?

    yep. they should get DC to do the gridwalks Martin can't do.

  • eek mark being interviewed on two screens at once. magic!

  • I wouldn't say that just yet, but it seems Jenson is running Lewis a lot closer than he should be, really.

    #sorrylou

    he'll prove you all wrong...

  • I do. That should have been discussed behind closed doors, not on TV.

    its good for us to know how he feels though

  • I do. That should have been discussed behind closed doors, not on TV.

    Why do you say that about Lewis but when I made similar comments about Webber, everyone went mad?

  • ooh, more start lights.

  • Jake and DC gridwalk

    So if MB can't do the gridwalk because he has to go to the box, how come DC can?

  • he'll prove you all wrong...

    hes one of the 4 alain prosts on the grid:-)

  • lol, DC giving Mark tips about which lights to look at when you're at the back of the grid

  • I do. That should have been discussed behind closed doors, not on TV.

    We always ask for more openness. Last week you had a real go at him for not making use of his tyres when it turned out he made the right call and the team made the wrong call.

  • Why do you say that about Lewis but when I made similar comments about Webber, everyone went mad?

    Because Lewis is supposed to be part of a team while Mark was having to work against it?

    Different circumstances I reckon.

  • oooh, bad news for mclaren. let's hope that "everyone does as good a job a lewis" changing that engine cover.

  • I guess Lewis and Mark just make an ace pair....

  • oh dear.. Lewis has an issue..

  • So if MB can't do the gridwalk because he has to go to the box, how come DC can?

    Because his legs are not as mangled and this way at least there is one in the box if there is a problem

  • Jake and DC gridwalk

    So if MB can't do the gridwalk because he has to go to the box, how come DC can?

    Cos DC dosen't have to do the intro part

  • We always ask for more openness. Last week you had a real go at him for not making use of his tyres when it turned out he made the right call and the team made the wrong call.

    Yeah I did. And I stand by that because he should have adjusted his driving to make his tyres last.

  • oooh, bad news for mclaren. let's hope that "everyone does as good a job a lewis" changing that engine cover.

    yikes!

  • oooh, bad news for mclaren. let's hope that "everyone does as good a job a lewis" changing that engine cover.

    :D :D

    am so happy Jenson can make his own decisions.

  • Because his legs are not as mangled and this way at least there is one in the box if there is a problem

    Hmm I wonder when DC will cut in then.

  • Yeah I did. And I stand by that because he should have adjusted his driving to make his tyres last.

    If Jenson makes a tyre call he gets credit for it. Lewis does it and he should change his driving?

    He was off the pace as soon as he went on to hards. It was nothing to do with making them last. He made the softs last so there is no reason why he could not make the hards last

  • Wow. I wonder if Lewis will even start?

  • If Jenson makes a tyre call he gets credit for it. Lewis does it and he should change his driving?

    gosh that drives me nuts

  • We always ask for more openness. Last week you had a real go at him for not making use of his tyres when it turned out he made the right call and the team made the wrong call.

    Jenson made them last?.. so why couldn't Lewis. He's been arguing he can manage his tyres just as well as Jenson.. so.. erm.. i too kinda expected him to be able to make them last for an extra few laps too.

  • Wow. I wonder if Lewis will even start?

    from the pit lane maybe?

  • Michael is using the force to force jake backwards, madness

  • hehehe :) i think i'm enjoying this more than Brundle's grid walk.. bit less awkward.

  • 5 minutes to get Lewis on the grid

  • hehehe :) i think i'm enjoying this more than Brundle's grid walk.. bit less awkward.

    Two is always so much better.

  • Jake walks backwards very well :)

  • points for jake, for braving schumi!

  • The marbling will look something like this today

    http://twitpic.com/4lwwxi

  • Schumi !! LOL

  • Jenson made them last?.. so why couldn't Lewis. He's been arguing he can manage his tyres just as well as Jenson.. so.. erm.. i too kinda expected him to be able to make them last for an extra few laps too.

    I vaguely remember there being one race last year where Lewis was really awesome with his tyres and I thought at the time 'hooray now everyone will stop saying hes rubbish at managing them'

    but that hasn't happened, maybe that race never happened and I dreamed it :D

  • If Jenson makes a tyre call he gets credit for it. Lewis does it and he should change his driving?

    But Lewis didn't make the call ... and he lets the team decide the strategy for him, so even if he did try and change the team wouldn't have let him.

  • hehehe :) i think i'm enjoying this more than Brundle's grid walk.. bit less awkward.

    Two is always so much better.

    not if one of them is EJ

  • uh ohhh...

  • The coverage is SO much better without EJ...

  • A fuel leak for lewis

    Someone get a cork

  • I vaguely remember there being one race last year where Lewis was really awesome with his tyres and I thought at the time 'hooray now everyone will stop saying hes rubbish at managing them'

    He really isn't that bad with them. Once you get a reputation for something, it's near impossible to shift whether that be good or bad.

  • di resta!!!!

  • oh God - please no fire!

  • But Lewis didn't make the call ... and he lets the team decide the strategy for him, so even if he did try and change the team wouldn't have let him.

    He said in that interview that he asked for softs and the team gave him hards. That is making the call

  • Oh dear .... this is very bad for Lewis. Although a pit lane start could lead to an exciting performance though

  • He said in that interview that he asked for softs and the team gave him hards. That is making the call

    Yes but how do ask for tyres when you normally let the team decide for you? He would have been easily overidden by his engineer.

  • gosh they're really rushing in that garage!

  • i do kinda feel sorry for lewis..

  • He really isn't that bad with them. Once you get a reputation for something, it's near impossible to shift whether that be good or bad.

    It's all about reputation

  • <

    The marbling will look something like this today

    http://twitpic.com/4lwwxi

    hehehe

    Hello all

  • Speed are promoting the Austin track pretty hard, of course.

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

  • OK... so for Lewis, how long before the race before he can get out to the grid? 5min before start?

  • did Lewis just blame the team?..

    Yep. Because he can't decide his own strategy he blames the team when they get it wrong.

    Way to get the guys in the garage to back you Lewis.

    Cutting his fuel line was a bit of an extreme response you have to say

  • off he goes

  • Lewis is out on the track now

  • close!

  • There's a piece of his airbox missing?

  • oi, bbc, you aint live

  • nice work mclaren!

  • OK... so for Lewis, how long before the race before he can get out to the grid? 5min before start?

    Needs to be out before 2:45pm local time (2 minutes from now) or he'll have to start from the pitlane.

  • Hi Janna! It's so late it's early here. :)

  • Yes but how do ask for tyres when you normally let the team decide for you? He would have been easily overidden by his engineer.

    Who says the team normally decides for him while Jenson decides for himself. I have yet to hear a single discussion on the subject on the radio

  • I see daddy button :)

  • OK... so for Lewis, how long before the race before he can get out to the grid? 5min before start?

    He's made it.

  • Made it by about 20 seconds

  • this is going to be the race FL for Lewis :D

  • Kai (Ebel)!!!

  • this is going to be the race FL for Lewis :D

    Ha! Mean!

  • Made it by about 20 seconds

    phew

  • He's made it.

    Made it by about 20 seconds

    so it's 15 min before start then?

  • Martin would not have let Kai Ebel in after Tania

  • Is Lewis out yet??

  • Made it by about 20 seconds

    Did it look like he had a piece of rear body work missing?

  • so it's 15 min before start then?

    Pit lane opens 30 minutes before the start and closes 15 minutes before

  • Who says the team normally decides for him while Jenson decides for himself. I have yet to hear a single discussion on the subject on the radio

    It has been said many times before hasn't it?

    I dunno. At the end of the day, Lewis was short by 4 laps and Jenson made it.

  • Is Lewis out yet??

    Yes

  • Did it look like he had a piece of rear body work missing?

    They said they'd fit it on the grid. He just had to get out.

  • jake is much more polite than martin

  • Did it look like he had a piece of rear body work missing?

    I thought so too. The back of the airbox?

  • Did it look like he had a piece of rear body work missing?

    They just sent him to the grid with the car as it was. They have ten minutes on the grid to sort all the bits

  • Is Lewis out yet??

    Yes

    That was damn close!! Phew

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

  • Wow Vettel is very polite too!

  • Jake can't interpret 'don't talk to me' signals :D

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

    Go awya, I am taping my helmet! I am a world champion and I'll use the force!

    #minischumi

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

    surely this is his priority, not the TV

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

    He is trying to sot his drinks feed into his helmet before a race. That is more important

  • It's all with the last minute engineering today....

  • Fuel was spraying straight into the airbox on Lewis' car, according to Steve Matchett.

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

    Not rude at all I'd say! He was the one being interrupted!

  • He is trying to sot his drinks feed into his helmet before a race. That is more important

    Martin probably wouldn't have even gone near him

  • The air filter was flooded?? How do you flood an air filter?

  • wow, how rude is vettel?

    I thought he was being OK?

  • heheheh i love that, engine cover up.. *masses of camera flashes for a moment*

  • I thought he was being OK?

    not cool in my book, but maybe that's just me.

  • The air filter was flooded?? How do you flood an air filter?

    Sounds like they don't know either

  • Martin probably wouldn't have even gone near him

    He was clearly busy doing something else... Leave him alone.

  • heheheh i love that, engine cover up.. *masses of camera flashes for a moment*

    That tyre cover is feeling so popular right now

  • I wonder if Jo Bauer is going to shoo the photographers away or if he does that just for Renault underbodies

  • 3mins. Hmmm ??

  • awww. lewis hug

  • 'they need to be stepping away from the car in the next 3 mins'

    i love the f1 people don't panic.. :)

  • why are the softs silver & not gold?

  • Morning lovely people.

  • why are the softs silver & not gold?

    Gold wasn't visible enough on TV

  • Hey RG

  • why are the softs silver & not gold?

    i've already given up with the tyres this year.

  • why are the softs silver & not gold?

    they didnt hear the song?

  • Gold wasn't visible enough on TV

    ah.

  • they didnt hear the song?

    THe name colour is the same but they have silver stripes and yellow letters

  • Gold wasn't visible enough on TV

    Why did they ever choose that as a colour then...? Much as people thought that green was silly, it was at least quite a bright colour.

  • Tiny Martin!

  • Martin appears to be sitting in a safe

  • Gold wasn't visible enough on TV

    ah.

    Permanent solution from turkey

  • Martin appears to be sitting in a safe

    I wonder if therse any F1 commentary box at any track that has even the slightest hint of comfort.

  • fair point about weaving at the start.

  • pandas!!

  • Panda hats!

  • PANDA

  • Morning

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

  • Permanent solution from turkey

    Until the next solution

  • Lewis has the engine cover back on

  • So you can block and weave as much as you like off the grid. Lets see if that applies when Lewis gets pole

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    I believe it means 'WE should be on pole today...'

  • Quick, time for a cuppa!

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    I assume for Kubica?

  • fair point about weaving at the start.

    yes, and vettel can overtake by going off the track too

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    maybe its for Japan again

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    Another one says Forza Paulo on it?

  • Another one says Forza Paulo on it?

    It might be for a team member or something.

  • So you can block and weave as much as you like off the grid. Lets see if that applies when Lewis gets pole

    doubt it.

  • Another one says Forza Paulo on it?

    One of the team members?

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

  • I believe it means 'WE should be on pole today...'

    hehe

  • Why has the Ferrari Pit board got "Si amo tutti con te" written on it?

    google translate says 'We love you all with you' accurate i know..

  • Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

    :(

  • I believe it means 'WE should be on pole today...'

    :D

  • Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

    eek. Well, that puts things in perspective.

  • Looks like some fans bothered showing up today

  • Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

    Ahh boo :(

  • Track temp 29C

    Air temp 22C

    Wind speed 1.2 m/s

    Humidity 23%

    Air pressure 1006.2 mBar

  • Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

    aww :(

  • Paolo the mechanic who went into surgery last night for aneurism

    Didn't know that

  • I thought Jenson had no. 1 on his helmet again then. Mobil 1 and tiredness make a good combination

  • oooh look - one full grandstand! I'll bet the rest are empty!

  • google translate says 'We love you all with you' accurate i know..

    It means we are all with you. Same message they used for Massa after his accident

  • google translate says 'We love you all with you' accurate i know..

    It's more like all our love is with you. We don't really speak like that in English at all :P

  • google translate says 'We love you all with you' accurate i know..

    It's more like all our love is with you. We don't really speak like that in English at all :P

    Yeah and the last time we saw it was for Massa.

  • I don't know who I want to win this ... just not Vettel I suppose

  • mmmm heat haze.. :)

  • Lotus have progressed amazingly to almost be out qualifying red bull already ;)

  • AC/DC TIME!!!!

  • Lotus have progressed amazingly to almost be out qualifying red bull already ;)

    :D

    :D

    :D

  • phew, my local men have shut up. time to turn off my stream and watch the tv :)

  • I don't know who I want to win this ... just not Vettel I suppose

    Same.

  • Lotus have progressed amazingly to almost be out qualifying red bull already ;)

    You just know Tony Fernandes is going to quote that!

  • I don't know who I want to win this ... just not Vettel I suppose

    Jenson!!.. *ehem*

  • Lewis's car got off the grid. Hope it is stuck together well enough to last the race

  • I recon webbers gonna make some good moves from the start. Lets hope the mclarens and jump vettle!!

  • I don't know who I want to win this ... just not Vettel I suppose

    I am not going to jinx who I want to/expect to win

  • Lewis's car got off the grid. Hope it is stuck together well enough to last the race

    Maybe VEttel was helping McLaren out with some Gaffa tape?

  • Looks like some fans bothered showing up today

    at over £300 a ticket, maybe we should cut them some slack?

  • Jenson!!.. *ehem*

    That's a good choice. :)

  • I recon webbers gonna make some good moves from the start. Lets hope the mclarens and jump vettle!!

    Webber will crash I reckon

  • at over £300 a ticket, maybe we should cut them some slack?

    That is ridiculous!

  • I recon webbers gonna make some good moves from the start. Lets hope the mclarens and jump vettle!!

    Anyone fancy predicting where he'll be at the end of the 1st lap? I'm saying p7

  • Go Lewis!

    (where is Jeremy anyway?)

  • at over £300 a ticket, maybe we should cut them some slack?

    You probably have to work the friday and saturday just to pay for the sunday!

  • Are we expecting carnage in the first couple of corners today?

  • at over £300 a ticket, maybe we should cut them some slack?

    That is ridiculous!

    300 only for the main straight. it's about half that price at the hairpin.

  • You probably have to work the friday and saturday just to pay for the sunday!

    :D

  • Webber will crash I reckon

    That would fit in perfectly for his season so far.

  • Are we expecting carnage in the first couple of corners today?

    Pretty much.

  • eee the excitement :D

  • Horner looks nervous

  • I wonder what Webber's strategy will be? I reckon it might be post-worthy

  • GO JENSON!!!!

  • EEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

  • yes

  • wooo mclarens!

  • OMG OMg OMG OMG

  • Yes!

  • I wonder what Webber's strategy will be? I reckon it might be post-worthy

    Should be

  • McLaren 1-2

  • Phwoar... Have a bit of that...

  • Jenson i flipping love you. <3 :) gooooooo Jenson!

  • WOOOHOOOOOOO

  • How was Vettel's start not a schumi chop?

  • Booo vettel!

  • Yeees!

  • Di resta 7th!!!

  • How was Vettel's start not a schumi chop?

    Because Button already got past? :D

  • YES!!! WELL DONE MCLAREN!

    Now we have a race on!

  • Wooooo go Paul

  • Good start from Sutil

  • How was Vettel's start not a schumi chop?

    Because Button already got past? :D

    On Lewis?

  • MSC 9th!!

  • How was Vettel's start not a schumi chop?

    Wall was further away here, not good though!

  • Webber lost one place

  • can we just stop the race now? i can't cope with 56 laps of worry..

  • don't see why they're ignoring moves like that at the start of the race, vettel's chop was dangerous

  • Oh my word!

  • On Lewis?

    yeah really not good.

  • gooo JB!

  • Go jenson!!

  • can we just stop the race now? i can't cope with 56 laps of worry..

    Couldnt have asked for a better start!

  • Start looked like Vettel had no KERS

  • Looks like a Lotus with problems...

  • don't see why they're ignoring moves like that at the start of the race, vettel's chop was dangerous

    It is stupid to ignore those moves

  • "currently no live session"

    Flipping stupid timing

  • come on Jenson!! XD

  • "currently no live session"

    Try reloading it. Worked for me

  • Excellent start by both mclarens! I predicted it. Happy boy!!

  • It is stupid to ignore those moves

    Yes very

  • Start looked like Vettel had no KERS

    You think so? Could be...

  • I hate that any start problem gets blamed on KERS. Lewis made a lousy start in Melbourne with KERS

  • don't see why they're ignoring moves like that at the start of the race, vettel's chop was dangerous

    That isn't necessarily ignored though, just considered under different rules rather than the 1 move on a straight. I mean ramming people off the road is never allowed.

  • why does no-one crash any more? stupid talented drivers :)

  • I'm surprised there was no big thing in the first lap. That's good.

  • How did Liuzzi get up to 20th?!

  • DRS starts now...

  • why does no-one crash any more? stupid talented drivers :)

    hehe

  • Oops 21st, still

  • why does no-one crash any more? stupid talented drivers :)

    even webber made it!!

  • why does no-one crash any more? stupid talented drivers :)

    In Malaysia I was thinking in my head 'no ones retired from an accident, they just have mechanical failures which isn't as exciting' and then about 20 seconds later Petrov went flying. #sorrypetrov

  • Wow Virgin and HRT are now visibly behind the rest...

  • It's nice to see a non red bull car leading again ;)

  • even webber made it!!

    stunning. But there's still plenty opportunities as he tries to move up.

  • It's nice to see a non red bull car leading again ;)

    True.

  • Go Kamui!

  • Get in.

  • Wow Virgin and HRT are now visibly behind the rest...

    I wonder if Virgin will lose sponsorship money what with Full Tilt Poker shutting down. Not that I'm sure they were even still sponsoring them.

  • It's nice to see a non red bull car leading again ;)

    Indeed. If Vettel wins this it will be an awesome effort

  • It's nice to see a non red bull car leading again ;)

    it's nice to see Jenson leading.. :)

  • I wonder if Virgin will lose sponsorship money what with Full Tilt Poker shutting down. Not that I'm sure they were even still sponsoring them.

    Oooh Full Tilt are shutting down?

  • What a start by jenson, wooooooooop!!

  • he got the start right when it matters most <3

  • Indeed. If Vettel wins this it will be an awesome effort

    And will probably be the key moment when we realize that Vettel has indeed won this championship.

  • It's nice to see a non red bull car leading again ;)

    especially when it's a maclaren!

  • Oooh Full Tilt are shutting down?

    almost all of the main poker sites have been shut down by the US Government, it's a major thing, they've all been charged with money laundering.

  • I wonder if Virgin will lose sponsorship money what with Full Tilt Poker shutting down. Not that I'm sure they were even still sponsoring them.

    Oooh Full Tilt are shutting down?

    Yup - US shutting down Big 3 online poker outfits.

  • That weaving and blocking is way worse than Lewis got penalised for again.

  • almost all of the main poker sites have been shut down by the US Government, it's a major thing, they've all been charged with money laundering.

    Yup - US shutting down Big 3 online poker outfits.

    WOW.

  • Blimey the view from Lewis' car...

  • dear video people.. can we watch the race now please?..

  • That weaving and blocking is way worse than Lewis got penalised for again.

    right, but how the sodding hell do you analyse and penalise every car on that grid? you can't just pick on the pole sitter.

  • WOW.

    Guess that's why PKR doesn't operate in the US.

  • I just hope there's not to many silly DRS overtakes today.

  • almost all of the main poker sites have been shut down by the US Government, it's a major thing, they've all been charged with money laundering.

    Yup - US shutting down Big 3 online poker outfits.

    WOW.

    Mafia Pressure.

  • almost all of the main poker sites have been shut down by the US Government, it's a major thing, they've all been charged with money laundering.

    US government has been after them for years

  • Tonio Liuzzi got ajump start apparently :)

  • That weaving and blocking is way worse than Lewis got penalised for again.

    David Hobbs said Vettel was too busy trying to block people behind him and he lost places.

  • I just hope there's not to many silly DRS overtakes today.

    i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

  • Also a very good start from massa to get ahead of anando too!

  • Button has fastest lap. Then Hamilton. Then vettel

  • David Hobbs said Vettel was too busy trying to block people behind him and he lost places.

    No he made a mistake with his clutch and nearly stalled it.

  • David Hobbs said Vettel was too busy trying to block people behind him and he lost places.

    Har Har

  • i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

    you can never win with F1 fans :D

  • i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

    Not too much overtaking. Too much unfair overtaking

  • i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

    we are never happy, that's why they really shouldn't listen to us too much

  • David Hobbs said Vettel was too busy trying to block people behind him and he lost places.

    Agreed

  • i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

    I'm not complaining, I love it.

  • Schumi-Koby Part 2 :)

  • we are never happy, that's why they really shouldn't listen to us too much

    hehe

  • Crofty days we have a Di Resta Train

    Trulli train 2.0

  • I'm not complaining, I love it.

    No complaints here!

    Especially when overtaking leads to jenson winning :P

  • Nooooooo Di Resta says he has a problem with the rear

  • Both Torro Rosso cars lost positions at the start. Now P11 and 13

  • 5 laps and Webber has gained one position

  • And button gets faster still! Keep going jenson!

  • No he made a mistake with his clutch and nearly stalled it.

    Speed guys are usually wrong. I share their comments as points of amusement. :)

  • 5 laps and Webber has gained one position

    Quite a bit more than one according to my live timing.

  • another 50 laps just like this please..

  • i never thought i'd see the day when people complain there is too much overtaking..

    I've never really had a problem with the volume of overtaking tbh. It seems pretty unfair that you as the car behind should get this advantage. There can be a lot of skill in defending overtaking moves too.

  • Nooooooo Di Resta says he has a problem with the rear

    He is holding his position so the car can feel as bad as it likes so long as the performance is still there

  • morning all

    Calm down, Lou......lol - stroke that cat........

  • 5 laps and Webber has gained one position

    Quite a bit more than one according to my live timing.

    Web P15

  • Vettel fasted lap.

  • Liuzzi has a drive through penalty, there goes his chances of winning, damn

  • Liuzzi has a drive through penalty, there goes his chances of winning, damn

    :D

  • Tim Train!

  • Toro Rossos are dropping back

  • I feel Seb's gonna win it as Button can't make any gap at all

  • Where are those red cars ?? Ahahaha

  • Liuzzi jumped the start and he's still second last? FAIL.

  • I feel Seb's gonna win it as Button can't make any gap at all

    could come down to pit stops....

  • When do we think people will pit?

  • I feel Seb's gonna win it as Button can't make any gap at all

    How is he going to build a gap to his team mate? He's not all that bad ;)

    If someone bungles a stop, it could go any way.

  • Jenson i would really like it if you could just distance yourself from Hamilton and Vettel a bit.. not much, just a second or two..

  • I feel Seb's gonna win it as Button can't make any gap at all

    How is he going to build a gap to his team mate? He's not all that bad ;)

    If someone bungles a stop, it could go any way.

    We have 3 contenders today for sure.

  • When do we think people will pit?

    Lap 18

  • Awww, damn you lovely perez.

  • Nice move Sergio

  • Perez is on fiiiire

  • tv people wroonnng fight...

  • Awww, damn you lovely perez.

    WOW!

  • Oh dear Webber (head shake)

  • Man this is confusing... we're watching a different battle to what crofty is commentating on...

  • Oh hello Checo, welcome to this race, 9 laps late.

  • TV Director missed ALL of that!

  • Perez did Webber?

  • Nice move Sergio

    I love watching him.

  • Cheeky move from Checo.

  • TV Director missed ALL of that!

    He had it on the edge of the screen, just about. :D

  • come on renault!

  • Quick Nick!!

  • I take back what I said about streaming, I just took the iPad to the kitchen to heat up pizza and not miss anything.

  • TV Director missed ALL of that!

    *shakes head*

  • Cripes, I can't watch Heidfeld... Does he have another spare front wing?

  • Amazing that Heidfeld is able to overtake the same cars easier than Webber has so far.

  • Hahaha Ant

    "you all know how great it is following a car in the countryside and then it turns into a farm!'

  • TV Director missed ALL of that!

    I still say all F1 TV directors should be put in a room with a gun and a million bullets each

  • hehehe ant comparing Jaime to a tractor down a country lane..

  • Wooooooooooooooah tim!!

  • Well, Brundle called it.

  • woah, 3 wheels

  • Erm someone is missing a wheel...

  • Yellow

  • Oh Jaime. :(

  • Wooooooooooooooah tim!!

    Bit too fast a pitstop then?

  • Think that toro Rossi is missing something

  • Webber 1.47.9 lap. Yikes.

  • Jaime had just pitted. Wheel nut retainer failed. That should not happen

  • It nearly hit the stewards :O

  • OMG! That tyre....

  • So dangerous

  • wow the HRT was lucky not to get hit by that tyre there...

  • It nearly hit the stewards :O

    and a photog.

  • bouncy bouncy..........good job he wasnt going that fast.......

  • and a photog.

    !!

    Incoming!

  • and a photog.

    :(

  • Slow webber stop

  • wow never thought i'd hear crofty say 'webber really needs to get out ahead of that hispania..' poor webber.

  • Purple S1 for Perez?

  • Blimey, Webber fighting with HRT....

  • Purple S1 for Perez?

    followed by a pedestrian S2.

  • I still say all F1 TV directors should be put in a room with a gun and a million bullets each

    they'd miss each other

  • soo, how long will it take the marshalls to get rid of the car...

  • Slow webber stop

    Just not happening for him, let's play conspiracy bingo.

  • ohh i like how close the photogs can get to the track there...

  • soo, how long will it take the marshalls to get rid of the car...

    I'll go for never.

  • soo, how long will it take the marshalls to get rid of the car...

    enough time to prevent any overtaking of jenson ;)

  • di Resta pits to try and cover Schumi.

  • they'd miss each other

    hehe! :D

  • Jenson, you know that gap we talked about... could you make it bigger please?

  • they'd miss each other

    That has always been my argument. They are only allowed to shoot when they think their gun is pointed at something important. My belief is they would all die of starvation

  • they'd miss each other

    Ahh, I hadn't got it before :-)

  • Crofty and the tv director are causing much confusion today :s

  • Just not happening for him, let's play conspiracy bingo.

    Lets not... :D

  • Yay!

  • Jenson, you know that gap we talked about... could you make it bigger please?

    yeah... 0.9 wasn't what i was thinking about.. was more thinking 1.9..

  • Checo, if you could have done that from the start, you'd be P9 or something.

  • Nice one Perez

  • Naughty perez says Ant

  • Webber fastest lap

  • Vettel is almost right behind hamilton now too

  • ohhh plleeaaseee can Jenson win this..

  • Lewis is gaining on Button too, they're all compacting.

  • Lets not... :D

    No, you're right let's not.

  • Jenson stop holding them all up :D

  • Mind games from the Red Bull mechanics

  • Schumacher fastest lap

  • Schumacher fastest lap

    Now Webber

  • hold Vettel off Hamilton... come on.. pleeaasseee.

  • ohhhhhhhh this is good.

  • Hamilton should hold up Vettel for his team!

  • Lewis is toast.

  • Hamilton should hold up Vettel for his team!

    orrrr not

  • Got to protect Jenson now?

  • See how is that fair?

  • ohh phewww

  • Button pits too!

  • oooh loving this!

  • WHOA!

  • Jenson went in the red bull pits?!!!!

  • woot Crofty on the world feed!

  • Poor stop from Button....

  • ???

  • NOOOOOOOOOOO *cries*

  • what???

  • talking about bungling a stop...

  • What on EARTH, Jenson?!

  • Jenson?!

  • Ohhh jenson...

  • oh crap.

  • Eh Jenson?

  • Button stopped in the wrong pit

  • Love the pits camera also catching a bit of Crofty's audio. :D

  • You don't even have Jaime's excuse of Abu Dhabi 09 of the liveries looking similar.

  • aw Jenson.. :( you got the start right and eveything...

  • I need a replay of that

  • genius.

  • oh dear jb.

  • Hehehe jenson

  • That is absolutely bizarre.

  • how to throw away a race.

  • Jenson should have parked in Vettel's pit. Then Lewis would have won

  • let's be fair, red bull mechanics and mclaren mechanics have very similar overalls ;-)

  • Hamilton's very slow too...

  • Button stopped in the wrong pit

    I thought that's what had happened.... He was so slow approaching the box, I didn't see him go right through the mechanics though!?

  • Massa ahead of Lewis???

  • ohhh mclaren, just hand it to red bull on a plate..

  • McLaren's race imploding before our very eyes.

  • Jenson "hm. This looks awfully....blue. Oh, oops!"

    :(

  • Oooh if Jenson was trying to hold up Vettel by doing that it didn't work?

  • WTF if wrong with Lewis?

  • ohhh mclarenjenson, just hand it to red bull on a plate..

    can't blame the team for that!

  • don't know which was more surprising

    jenson going to the wrong pit, or vettel overtaking another car

  • WTF if wrong with Lewis?

    The tyres? Massa beats him out!

  • Massa was outside the white line on the exit

  • Massa was outside the white line on the exit

    Hmmm.

  • Wow Vettel just scored big against both McLarens

  • McLaren's race just fell apart in one lap

  • Massa was outside the white line on the exit

    I missed that

  • oh dear.

  • McLaren's race just fell apart in one lap

    yup

  • 3 stopper for all the leading drivers, I guess.

  • Massa was outside the white line on the exit

    I missed that

    Did the stewards see it?

  • can't blame the team for that!

    i meant in total.. Lewis handing it to them and Jenson too. not blaming Mclaren.. just a collective *ergh* at both of their drivers..

    no blaming the team from me. i'm not lewis :P

  • i meant in total.. Lewis handing it to them and Jenson too. not blaming Mclaren.. just a collective *ergh* at both of their drivers..

    fair enough :D

  • Did the stewards see it?

    I won't tell on him :)

  • Massa's hardly in contention for overtaker of the year, are we sure Lewis didn't have some issue? I can't imagine Massa being that wide away for an overtake...

  • Absoloutly hopeless by button.

  • MSC gets Alonso! YEEEES!

  • gooo nico!

  • rosberg is 2nd but has pitted???

  • Good pit stops for Mercedes?

  • Rosberg P1???

  • nice squeeze by Lewis:-)

  • I have absolutely no idea how this has happened.

  • rosberg is 2nd but has pitted???

    He leads. :O

  • rosberg is 2nd but has pitted???

    wait, WHAT???

  • ohhh Nico I WANT YOU TO WIN #wherestherealamy

  • Rosberg is leading the race. How?

  • okay so if Jenson can't win.. Rosberg must.

  • What is going on? Has Rosberg jumped Vettel because Button held up Vettel in the pit?

  • okay so if Jenson can't win.. Rosberg must.

    Sounds like a plan

  • Rosberg is leading the race. How?

    *shrug*

    BUT they will do an extra stop.

  • Rosberg's tyres can't be doing fantastic compared to the rest of everyone who stopped because he went early

  • Ha. I thought last race was confusing.

  • nice one schumi!

  • BUT they will do an extra stop.

    Mercedes? or Button?

    This is the problem when you;re easily confused and a driver uses BUT as their abbreviation.. :)

  • Ha. I thought last race was confusing.

    :-)

  • I hate this, it's like wacky racers. Flipping heck.

  • Everyone's passing Heidfeld, why doesn't he get new tyres? Trying to stretch out a two-stopper?

  • my brain hurts......

  • Ha. I thought last race was confusing.

    :)

  • Mercedes? or Button?

    Both Mercedes. :D Sorry about that,

  • Ha. I thought last race was confusing.

    Agreed.

  • Ha. I thought last race was confusing.

    Last race was Inception, this race is Source Code.

  • If you were at the track you'd be so lost without Fanvision

  • I have no idea what is happening out there.

  • Last race was Inception, this race is Source Code.

    hehehe

  • Nico leads by 5 seconds?? That's... a lot. :O

  • Button seems to have screwed both himself and Vettel.

  • Where's Petrov?

  • I have no idea what is happening out there.

    A lot. I love it!

  • poor Jackson Burton.

  • Mark Webber... is 13th? Still nowhere.

  • Heidfeld could get a podium if he does 1 stop less than the others.

  • Jenson, do.not.let.vettel.run.away. pleaase

  • poor Jackson Burton.

    ??

  • Heidfeld's pitting

  • I have no idea what is happening out there.

    its not that complicated!

  • nico has a great gap, but can he maintain it.

  • Poor stop again....

  • Somebody should make shoes out of the marbles and sell them to fans

  • how does hamilton is behind massa??

  • ??

    on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

  • nico has a great gap, but can he maintain it.

    Vettel closing in by around 0.5s a lap. Long way to go yet.

  • its not that complicated!

    I dunno, it is pretty mental

  • first rookie win in 2 years wouldn't it?

  • how does hamilton is behind massa??

    TV director missed what happened.

  • on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

    Heeeeeeeehehe.

  • on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

    oh :(

  • We haven't had anyone lapped yet, but Rosberg is exactly the length of the back straight behind Liuzzi.

    goo liuzzi :)

  • on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

    :D

    Wonder how many of the uberfan contestants would have known that was wrong

  • its not that complicated!

    Agreed, the only mystery is Rosberg and that was probably due to the Button/Vettel pit delay. Oh and how Massa passed Lewis but that's the TV director's fault.

  • on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

    Haha!

  • poor Jackson Burton.

    Jason Barton is my favorite too but he ruined it for himself.

    Is this why I'm not following the action, must concentrate.

    Wait, what did Ted just say?

  • fastest lap for JB!

  • Agreed, the only mystery is Rosberg and that was probably due to the Button/Vettel pit delay. Oh and how Massa passed Lewis but that's the TV director's fault.

    he's doing one extra stop though.

  • Heeeeeeeehehe.

    he's followed by Vettel, Alonso, Rosberg and Webber who are all correctly spelt so I'm not quite sure how they got it so wrong.

  • Button goes fasted

  • Nico is slower than Seb is slower than Jenson.

  • Jason Barton is my favorite too but he ruined it for himself.

    he uses that sometimes in triathlons?

  • Jackson Burton sounds like a Gentlemenøs clothing label...

  • Looks like Massa is not being penalised for crossing the white line if he did

  • on the page where you buy Korean GP tickets they have a bit thats 'quotes from drivers' about the circuit and the very top one is Jackson Burton :D

    :D

  • Agreed, the only mystery is Rosberg and that was probably due to the Button/Vettel pit delay. Oh and how Massa passed Lewis but that's the TV director's fault.

    Do we know where Hamilton lost out?

  • Button goes fasted

    Can't spell, soz

  • Looks like Massa is not being penalised for crossing the white line if he did

    They missed it. :D

  • Do we know where Hamilton lost out?

    Tyres degraded, fell like a rock.

  • Can you imagine this race on ITV with ad breaks?

  • They missed it. :D

    The car is red

  • They missed it. :D

    Told you I wouldn't tell! ;)

  • Can you imagine this race on ITV with ad breaks?

    it would be just like watching it here with adbreaks *cry*

  • Can you imagine this race on ITV with ad breaks?

    I can barely imagine it without breaks

  • Can you imagine this race on ITV with ad breaks?

    Yes.

    2add breaks so far :-(

  • it would be just like watching it here with adbreaks *cry*

    Boooo #sorryamy

  • Can you imagine this race on ITV with ad breaks?

    How about on Speed with ad breaks?

    #goodtimes

  • Do we think Rosberg is in position or will he have an extra stop?

  • Did Massa cross the white line before it joins the edge of the race track or the one that is on the race track? Alonso crossed the one before the join which I think is allowed.

  • I can barely imagine it without breaks

    Hehe!

  • Rosberg is still holding that lead, not being caught.

  • Rosberg is still holding that lead, not being caught.

    go go go go go! You may not be Proper Finnish but I can't help but like you now.

  • Is that Sauber damaged?

  • Part of perez' nose is missing?

  • Something fell of alonso or shu

  • Jenson, channel brazil 2009..

  • Things seem to drop off those cars a lot more often than they used to....

  • ooh adbreak #3. Booo.

  • How is Massa sticking with Button

  • Things seem to drop off those cars a lot more often than they used to....

    Not enough selotape

  • ahh how nice for Jock if this was a win on his last race on location :)

  • Ah ha, a mystery is solved. Down the back straight, Massa was behind Hamilton, he overtook him at the hairpin at turn 14 and then dove straight into the pits.

    i (heart) f1 timing app. buy this thing people, buy it now.

  • Rosberg - lift 25 metres early

  • Rosberg's turning vane is wiggling around a lot

  • ooh adbreak #3. Booo.

    speaking of. Grrrrrrr

  • How is Massa sticking with Button

    Hamilton is pushing him along?

  • ahh it's kobayashi#s car with the nose hole

  • ahh it's kobayashi#s car with the nose hole

    It was probably that Buemi again.

  • speaking of. Grrrrrrr

    I go back to my bbc stream during ads but it's not the ideal situation :(

  • It was probably that Buemi again.

    BUEMI!!! *shakes fist*

  • Kobi's car FBFB, not Checo's

  • I tested out the onehd webstream to see if they have adbreaks, they dont show ads but they just go to a black screen that says 'we'll return to the f1 shortly' grrrrr.

  • ad break #5

  • Do we know where Hamilton lost out?

    I've not seen a replay

  • ad break #5

    speed wins

  • I've not seen a replay

    I think it was just totally missed....

  • Schumi up in 6th too, mercedes not too shabby so far

  • It's 2006 all over again!

  • It's 2006 all over again!

    WOOOHOOO!

  • no, Vettel, stop closing that gap.

  • It's 2006 all over again!

    #goodtimes

  • speed wins

    The Ab Glider! 4am ads are the best. And they are endless.

  • Schumacher's the Silver Baron now

  • Schumi uses that Kers well to hold off Alonso

  • "I wonder if theres ever any good news that goes down the radio to Mark Webber"

    heheheh I like Martin.

  • Webber - no KERS

  • no, Vettel, stop closing that gap.

    have never wished for a red bull failure as much.. well as much as i did last week anyways.

  • #goodtimes

    Time to go to Hungary :)

  • McLaren what?!?

  • Button pits

  • right pit box, well done JB

  • eh?

  • ohh have they changed Jenson's strategy? ohh i hope this is the right decision.. ohh jenson..

  • Button on a 4 stopper??

  • right pit box, well done JB

    :)

  • Seems like no-one can make a clean stop today....

  • Jenson pits!? Hope this strat works!

  • Wonder if he had a slow puncture?

  • right pit box, well done JB

    oh he's never gonna live that down :(

  • i (heart) f1 timing app. buy this thing people, buy it now.

    I haven't seen any messages on it yet, too busy looking at other screens!

  • 'is this just a moody lovely slo-mo or are we actually...no we're not'

    :D

  • McLaren what?!?

    He needs the pit stop practice, he cant go on pitting in the wrong place all year!

  • right pit box, well done JB

    Hehe.

  • did Alonso have his DRS active in that slow-mo?

  • Look how the drivers heads bounce going down the back straight!

  • fastest SS for Jenson.. make it work JB make it work.

  • did Alonso just use the rear wing where he is not allowed to?

  • Lewis pits

  • Lewis is pitting too?

  • oh he's never gonna live that down :(

    be interesting to hear him explain it though

    Have a feeling we won;t get pit radio from that moment

  • I have no idea what's going on....

  • did Alonso have his DRS active in that slow-mo?

    That's what Matchett showed on the telestrator, Alonso had it open when he wasn't supposed to. He called it a violation.

  • Rosberg slow away

  • Alonso past schumi

  • Ohhh Rubens is still racing, thats nice

  • Hey folks,

    Just popping in for a moment. The race is on in the media room - is Rosberg playing the long game and is Button sure he knows which team he drives for?

  • Alonso has overtaken Schumi.

    Director missed that.

  • That's what Matchett showed on the telestrator, Alonso had it open when he wasn't supposed to. He called it a violation.

    Certainly is a violation if it is open in the wrong area

  • That wheel is not on properly.

  • Jenson still ahead of Lewis.. phew. at least that's something.

  • That's what Matchett showed on the telestrator, Alonso had it open when he wasn't supposed to. He called it a violation.

    thats what it looked like

  • The battle continues!

  • Have a feeling we won;t get pit radio from that moment

    i think we can probably imagine what he muttered to himself.

  • Nice one Fernando

  • diResta ahead of Button. Stop the race

  • Jenson, no locking up. please.

  • diResta ahead of Button. Stop the race

    Not anymore.

  • Jenson's past di resta

  • Certainly is a violation if it is open in the wrong area

    It was, it was circled in yellow and everything. :)

  • diResta ahead of Button. Stop the race

    I do like him.

  • Hey folks, guess what? AD BREAK!

  • Crofty is saying he thought it was open too.

  • diResta ahead of Button. Stop the race

    I like that this year you've become as biased as the rest of us with obvious favourites ;)

  • Hey folks, guess what? AD BREAK!

    Work those abs!

  • Hey folks, guess what? AD BREAK!

    must be time to move to the uk!

  • Ant and Crofty speculating dodgy rear wings

  • if i didn't have crofty i'd be completely lost

  • I like that this year you've become as biased as the rest of us with obvious favourites ;)

    I really am not that biased.

  • Those grandstands look empty !?

  • Hamilton passed Di Resta

  • I really am not that biased.

    Lou has already requested to stop the race once today and I often do the same when Heikki is somewhere he shouldn't be :D

  • 3.2 second lead for Vettel. well i suppose hoping for a different race winner was a bit optimistic.

  • Work those abs!

    hehhe

    Now it's Maguires wax to protect my car, and now the perfect car battery, now ATV's.

  • Those grandstands look empty !?

    They just have little people in them

  • You've missed your chance now Steven I'm afraid, they're both past...

  • I really am not that biased.

    You're not biased, you're just looking out fo Di Resta's career is all :P

  • if i didn't have crofty i'd be completely lost

    It seems like this season we have ten laps of nothing followed by 3 laps of insanity during the pit stops

  • Errr my timing has Massa in 2nd? Is that a mistake?

  • They just have little people in them

    Tilt shift or are you being mean?

  • Errr my timing has Massa in 2nd? Is that a mistake?

    Nope.

  • Lou has already requested to stop the race once today and I often do the same when Heikki is somewhere he shouldn't be :D

    You can stop the race whenever you like as a rubens fan, I don't mind. Whenever you guys feel ready.

  • Errr my timing has Massa in 2nd? Is that a mistake?

    nope.

  • I just realised this is the first race I've watched in HD. It doesn't really look any different to me.

  • Errr my timing has Massa in 2nd? Is that a mistake?

    Why did Crofty say Alonso was in 2nd then?

  • gah ad. we are catching up Kai

  • Come on fake finn!!

  • Errr my timing has Massa in 2nd? Is that a mistake?

    vettel and massa appear to be on a different strategy.

  • WOW Nico.

  • Seb, Felipe's faster than you

  • O.O *claps Rosberg*

  • Go Nico

  • gah ad. we are catching up Kai

    Not a goal you want to achieve.

  • gah ad. we are catching up Kai

    all these ads are for man things. i'm watching toooooo!

  • I LOVE F1 IN 2011

  • Vettel gong to lose out here - dropping time on the old tyres

  • I just realised this is the first race I've watched in HD. It doesn't really look any different to me.

    you can see the marbles better

  • I LOVE F1 IN 2011

    :D

  • We can't hear vettel's radio, shame that

  • We can't hear him either...

  • RBR can't even make a radio work

  • RUBENS SIGHTING

    yessss

  • Seb has finally revealed why he's been so good this year. Newey has replaced Vettel with a robot.

  • yessss

    Also, noooo

  • you can see the marbles better

    thats actually what made me remember it was HD!

    "ooh look at the marbles, hey wait, this is hd!"

  • I LOVE F1 IN 2011

    yup. deffo agree.

  • We can't hear vettel's radio, shame that

    No one can, not even his race engineers.

  • yessss! lovely move.

  • Seb has finally revealed why he's been so good this year. Newey has replaced Vettel with a robot.

    hehe

  • Oops Fernando!

  • No one can, not even his race engineers.

    but we won't get to hear the oscar speech!

  • nice jenson

  • Why is Alonso not pitting?

  • Seb has finally revealed why he's been so good this year. Newey has replaced Vettel with a robot.

    the robots want Lotus to win. The cartoon told me so.

  • Halfway point of the race: I have no clue who will win this race.

    Never would have thought that before the start.

  • That was nice move on alonso by button

  • wow, ALonso struggling badly here

  • Never would have thought that before the start.

    Yay for that

  • Halfway point of the race: I have no clue who will win this race.

    Never would have thought that before the start.

    Brilliant isn't it?

  • And hamilton too!

  • Lewis/Fernando part 2

  • Why is Alonso not pitting?

    Good question. His turn to drop like a rock.

  • I guess this is the battle of 2 vs 3 stops

  • Halfway point of the race: I have no clue who will win this race.

    I can offer a clue - if anyone put money on Karthikeyan, might be time to give up I'm afraid

  • Ad break.

  • Alonso couldn't even try to defend against Hamilton

  • Lewis FL

  • Halfway point of the race: I have no clue who will win this race.

    Looks like Vettel

  • Ad break.

    Are they showing any f1?

  • MSC now 11th.

  • I guess this is the battle of 2 vs 3 stops

    woo hoo. just like refueling.

  • MSC now 11th.

    9th!

  • I kinda like it when the rubber comes off the tyres, you see happy little marbles dancing around

  • Looks like Vettel

    I'm hoping having to get all his messages by pit board might hinder him somehow

  • Ad break.

    I can FBFB the ad breaks.

    Speed ad, car batteries, tires,

  • woo hoo. just like refueling.

    boo. just like refuelling.

  • I guess this is the battle of 2 vs 3 stops

    sidepodpanel

  • *prays red bull mess up their pitstops*

  • woo hoo. just like refueling.

    boo. just like refuelling.

    :)

  • Speed ad, car batteries, tires,

    we get cars, cars, car insurance, razors, burgers.

  • woo hoo. just like refueling.

    This is waaay more confusing that refueling!?

  • woo hoo. just like refueling.

    But nobody is 'waiting for the stops' because the stops are so short, its all on the track

  • Go massa!

  • oooh.. ooo... gooo massa!

  • Massa seems to be in great position with that 1 stop only

  • Are they showing any f1?

    Now and then.

    This is the way it always is, though. I'm just sharing the joy.

  • *prays red bull mess up their pitstops*

    How rude, they didn't listen :(

  • Mistake on left rear....

  • This is waaay more confusing that refueling!?

    really? am following all of it i think.

  • Martin very impressed with Massa

  • Lets hope the mclarens dont do a red bull in turkey impression

  • Hopefully team orders will help the mclarens now!

  • we get cars, cars, car insurance, razors, burgers.

    and webber advertising vitamins :D

  • Show us the McLarens

  • Go Lewis!!

  • Shoo lewis!

  • sidepodpanel

    Too much going on to keep track of - action on track, trying to make sense of livetiming, looking at comments, FBFB - info overload!

  • Go on Lewis

  • Don't crash Lewis.

  • Hamilton is faster then you. Do u understand the message?

  • woo hoo. just like refueling.

    This is nothing like refuelling.

  • Why did Vettel pit?

  • Vettel needs to stop again I think.

    25 lap stint is not possible.

  • This is waaay more confusing that refueling!?

    crofty helps.. :)

  • This is nothing like refuelling.

    Refueling on steroids me thinks

  • Jenson, do not let Lewis pass...

  • Alonso pits at last

  • hamitlon on hards?

  • Lets hope the mclarens dont do a red bull in turkey impression

    Red Bull in turkey doesn't sound very appetizing.

  • the mechanic kicked the camera!

  • This is waaay more confusing that refueling!?

    I definatly prefer it to refueling. Its not all about 1 lap in the race. every lap counts

  • I definatly prefer it to refueling. Its not all about 1 lap in the race. every lap counts

    and fuel stops were so predictable, this is 'why is he pitting NOW?'

  • Wow!!

  • Vettel needs to stop again I think.

    He seems to have ended up on a halfway house between strategies... Too long for 2 stop but not soon enough to get the benefit of 3 stops?

  • Webber put himself in a crazy position

  • Webber put himself in a crazy position

    Was kind of expecting him to go way off then, so far offline

  • He seems to have ended up on a halfway house between strategies... Too long for 2 stop but not soon enough to get the benefit of 3 stops?

    pit stop recovery? hehe :)

  • really? am following all of it i think.

    Same, apart from what FOM miss :)

  • Could rosberg still win?

  • Massa did the same thing!

  • When will this season give me a safety car

  • happy sunday to you too crofty :)

  • Good race for Schumi,

    Just his teammate is 25 seconds in front of him.

  • Could rosberg still win?

    Glock could still win with all the logic that applies to racing this season

  • Too much going on to keep track of - action on track, trying to make sense of livetiming, looking at comments, FBFB - info overload!

    Main focus is the TV, second is timing, then trying to catch up with comments/tweets when I can..

  • Massa did the same thing!

    crossed white line twice???

  • Could rosberg still win?

    If he hasn't been on hards yet, nope, he can't.

  • I still say Roserg's in a really good position here

  • If he hasn't been on hards yet, nope, he can't.

    Oh :-(

  • Massa did the same thing!

    Coulthard says thats allowed.

  • When will this season give me a safety car

    no! no need!

  • Main focus is the TV, second is timing, then trying to catch up with comments/tweets when I can..

    hm. Watching the race? Good idea. :) I'll try it.

  • crossed white line twice???

    Indeedy, bit dodgy

  • no! no need!

    this race certainly doesnt :)

  • Mind you without the timing app I'd be more lost

  • If he hasn't been on hards yet, nope, he can't.

    Why not? Surely almost the whole top 10 is going to have to stop again and put hards on?

  • Vettel slowr than mclarens and rosberg. Hope button can get through rosberg without delay

  • Natalie says he's being investigated

  • Impressed with Rosberg

  • Why not? Surely almost the whole top 10 is going to have to stop again and put hards on?

    Vettel's already on hards.

  • Natalie says he's being investigated

    Or they're waiting to hear about massa crossing the white line anyways

  • oohh no.. Lewis go away..

  • Vettel's already on hards.

    No way he'll last until the end though??

  • Hehe Lewis v jenson

  • Natalie says he's being investigated

    Is he too short to see the white line?

    Ad break.

  • *cries*

  • OOhhh jenson...

  • Go Lewis

  • weak jenson, very weak.

  • woo!

  • Button flipping heck don't do that...

  • Oooooo yes!

  • Cringe!!!

  • Crofty just compared turn 1 to a curly wurly hehehehe!

  • Great move Lewis

  • Wow, Hamilton passes Button who had to duck out of the way, that could've been an accident

  • Jenson looked like he dummied a chop

  • Great move Lewis

    wow!

  • weak jenson, very weak.

    It was either that or no points, really.

  • Great move Lewis

    I'm watching a Fram air filter ad. :(((

  • Hamilton with a mental dive

  • jenson was half asleep there.

  • Jenson looked like he dummied a chop

    Just as bad as Vettel on lap 1 that... Bad bad bad.

  • I'm watching a Fram air filter ad. :(((

    www.firstrowsport…rt/motosport.html

  • *sigh* this race could have gone so so well..

  • So the Massa thing will be the thing that changes the result a few hours later then ;)

  • Button's already dropped 2 secs from Lewis

  • Just as bad as Vettel on lap 1 that... Bad bad bad.

    I just hope he was napping and didn'treally see where Lewis was rather than malicious.

  • Just as bad as Vettel on lap 1 that... Bad bad bad.

    Jenson gave him room. Not sure if it was a pretend chop or he just didn't know Lewis was going through

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

  • what is the pit time penalty here? how far ahead does Nico and co have to be ahead to come out in front of Vettel?

  • *sigh* this race could have gone so so well..

    There's still chance of a podium so don't get too disheartened :)

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

    YES

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

    I don't mind, personally

  • Button pitting.

  • Oooh, Button coming in, watch out Red Bull...

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

    DRS is working well today

  • Alonso seems to have that move to perfection. Force the guy in front to go tight to the apex and pass him on the exit

  • There's still chance of a podium so don't get too disheartened :)

    am very disappointed in Jenson today. he better have a good excuse for that disaster of a pitstop. I know i'm bad at directions sometimes..

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

    Makes no odds to me. I rarely can tell what is and isn't to do with DRS :)

  • isn't that more enjoyable to watch because we know it had nothing to do with DRS?

    DRS, different quality rubber.

    Theoretically yes, but in practice not a huge amount of difference

  • Button on hards

  • Makes no odds to me. I rarely can tell what is and isn't to do with DRS :)

    *hugs christine* soo nice to know it's not just me.

  • Makes no odds to me. I rarely can tell what is and isn't to do with DRS :)

    I;d agree with that :)

  • right. can we have some rain please?

    *grasping at straws*

  • Makes no odds to me. I rarely can tell what is and isn't to do with DRS :)

    Same here. :)

  • Makes no odds to me. I rarely can tell what is and isn't to do with DRS :)

    exactly. Can't complain because the race is enjoyable!

  • right. can we have some rain please?

    Maybe the track will sink somewhere

  • ooh Button that was a bad lockup

  • right. can we have some rain please?

    *Looks at Sauber positions*

    Yes.

  • exactly. Can't complain because the race is enjoyable!

    I agree

  • Flat spot for Jenson on his outside front tyre?

  • ooh Button that was a bad lockup

    not good on the tyres you're trying to finish with!

  • ooh Button that was a bad lockup

    was before his stop tho. so no harm done.

  • not good on the tyres you're trying to finish with!

    It was the old tyres, he's got other ones on now.

  • was before his stop tho. so no harm done.

    ahh, thats good for him :)

  • was before his stop tho. so no harm done.

    cool!

  • Hamilton now on hards or softs?

  • ahh, thats good for him :)

    i heart crofty so so much when he tells me good news like this :)

  • Vettel 6secs ahead of hamilton

  • I wonder what will the number of overtaking maneuvers at the end of the race:-)

  • Well, if Massa doesn't get a post-race penalty, Alonso might.

  • That Webber/Schumi battle was brillianT!

  • Ooh just had deja vu...

  • That has to be a penalty for opening the DRS outwith the zone

  • BBC finally spot the Alonso DRS "error" - possible penalty?

  • Well, if Massa doesn't get a post-race penalty, Alonso might.

    why?

  • ROsberg pits

  • gooo Nico!

  • Rosberg ...

  • fastest lap for jenson again..

  • Rosberg gets out ahead of Lewis

  • Button FL

  • BBC finally spot the Alonso DRS "error" - possible penalty?

    Hmm, depends on whether that was the fault of the car or of Race Control?

  • come on Rosberg. do it for Jock..

  • Hamilton took the wrong line there

  • JB Fastest Lap

  • Something weird happened there. Was that a mistake from Lewis? Or did Rosberg move on the straight?

  • For all the complaints of DRS there's been overtaking opportunities at various corners not just the DRS hairpin

  • DRS Time

  • Hmm, depends on whether that was the fault of the car or of Race Control?

    Isn't the button driver-controlled, though? Race Control can only control who can turn it on or off.

  • Hmm, depends on whether that was the fault of the car or of Race Control?

    But surely for it to open he HAS to have pressed the button?

  • But surely for it to open he HAS to have pressed the button?

    Yes

  • For all the complaints of DRS there's been overtaking opportunities at various corners not just the DRS hairpin

    Indeed.

  • But surely for it to open he HAS to have pressed the button?

    could be a software error, they'll look into it I'm sure

  • Deary me Lewis...

  • ouch Lewis

  • Was that a legal move?

  • who was that in the pits? and why isn't it me?..

  • thats a lovely mustache

  • Was that a legal move?

    From who?

  • Fuel is critical for Nico

  • WHy show us people standing in the pits???

  • WHy show us people standing in the pits???

    Because of the mustache!

  • ahh, nico can't fight :(

  • dont run out of fuel :( :(

  • they're closing on Massa rapidly

  • ah boo no refuelling is mean :(

  • noooooooooooooo Nico

  • What Alonso DRS error?

  • Rosberg's head is bouncing up and down in the cockpit

  • ahh, nico can't fight :(

    Underfueled car vs. car with flatspotted tyre. Who wins? Vettel.

  • Mistakes from Mercedes then eh....

  • ahh, nico can't fight :(

    I'm sure there's a Di Caprio joke to be made

  • fight anyway nico.. fight till the end!

  • What Alonso DRS error?

    It opened when he was following Schumacher in the wrong part of the track

  • Come on Lewis

  • Boooo Maldonado getting in the way

  • Hamilton will get rosberg. Just a matter of time. And then we have to hope Vettel's tyres drop off!!

  • From McLaren Live Timing:

    Hamilton: "He just moved drastically in front of me."

    Hamilton: "Rosberg's driving is dangerous."

  • Nice move Lewis

  • JB is catching Lewis and Nico... *prays*

  • such weak defence going on through the field.

  • Rosberg's race will now be managed from 5th.

  • Massa wont be penalised

  • It's over for Lewis surely?

  • Pinky says no penalty for Massa

  • From McLaren Live Timing:

    Hello stewards decision later on today!

  • such weak defence going on through the field.

    sounds like you're talking about football :)

  • Massa wont be penalised

    Errrr why not???

  • Hello stewards decision later on today!

    *sigh *

  • Can't believe Massa is still P2

  • 0.4 between Jenson and Hamilton... gooo Jenson.

  • Hello stewards decision later on today!

    3 weeks till the next race, no need to bother with a decsion in the next 24 hours

  • If Nico is critical on fuel, does that mean he has been slightly lighter the whole race or is that amount so small that is doesn't make a huge difference?

  • Wbber fastest laps

  • Errrr why not???

    Particularly as he's done it twice today. Have a rule or don't. Don't have a rule then say it doesn't matter.

  • Particularly as he's done it twice today. Have a rule or don't. Don't have a rule then say it doesn't matter.

    Agreed

  • Can't believe Massa is still P2

    If Vettel's tyres go off, he can win this race.

  • Hello stewards decision later on today!

    As long as he finishes within 25 seconds of a Sauber...

  • Particularly as he's done it twice today. Have a rule or don't. Don't have a rule then say it doesn't matter.

    I agree.

  • for a car that was 20 seconds shy of starting from the pitlane, i'm stunned lewis is still running.

  • come on Jenson, overtake Rosberg.. what happens if the tyres of vettel and massa drop off like ant and crofty keep saying..

  • Odd Renault moment

  • Start defending soon - Rob

  • for a car that was 20 seconds shy of starting from the pitlane, i'm stunned lewis is still running.

    good point

  • for a car that was 20 seconds shy of starting from the pitlane, i'm stunned lewis is still running.

    mclaren did good.

  • ooooh another bit of the suaber has gone...

  • Far too optimistic from Checo surely.

  • DC gets his name right!

  • Perez put his own car in trouble there

  • Webber 3 seconds a lap faster than Alonso in front of him.

  • Points for Jenson, he's asked to go to Japan to keep doing fundraising efforts with his girlfriend.

  • That was definitely Perez' fault

  • Far too optimistic from Checo surely.

    A bit of "a Vettel" there.... Moving back over before he was properly past.

  • Good news DC just acknowledged the extra i he's been putting in Heidfeld's name.

  • Points for Jenson, he's asked to go to Japan to keep doing fundraising efforts with his girlfriend.

    During the race?

  • Points for Jenson, he's asked to go to Japan to keep doing fundraising efforts with his girlfriend.

    :) <3

  • Good news DC just acknowledged the extra i he's been putting in Heidfeld's name.

    :D

  • During the race?

    heheh

  • Go on Hamilton!

  • Heh does that mean "calm down lewis"

  • During the race?

    hehe, umm... I think it was before...

  • Jenson please overtake Rosberg soon.

  • gooooooo lewis!

  • goooo Lewis!

  • nice one Lewis!

  • Time to go get vettel!!!

  • heheheheh croft 'go get him!'

  • man, this race is cracking!

  • Man Lewis is FLYING

  • hehe snap

  • Look how tight Lewis was on the exit of the last turn!!!. He was only halfway across the road

  • I might go back and watch this later to see how many times 5 live have said 'Weve got a race on our hands'

  • 5 live catch phrase of the day 'we've got a race on our hands!'

  • man, this race is cracking!

    it really is.

  • Man Lewis is FLYING

    but why isnt jenson!!

  • He can't get Vettel can he? Do they both need to stop again?

  • but why isnt jenson!!

    he's not as good.

  • he's not as good.

    :D

  • man, this race is cracking!

    it really is.

    AND its China!!

  • but why isnt jenson!!

    good question. he will get nico sooner or later, though.

  • alonso with an issue?

  • he's not as good.

    you're mean..

  • HEI and PER are being investigated by the stewards

  • yaaaaayyyy

  • you're mean..

    I know :(

  • good question. he will get nico sooner or later, though.

    and he has.

  • he did it! and i wasn't looking!!

  • Webber's really picked up the pace since the first couple laps

  • Lewis took 9/10 out of Vettel on that la[

  • HEI and PER are being investigated by the stewards

    I'm shocked.

  • stupid 2 stopping Vettel, everyone passed you, STOP LEADING THE RACE.

  • he did it! and i wasn't looking!!

    It wasn't on the tv I don't think....

  • Button, passed rosberg, now on Massachusetts. Nice!

  • Come on Jenson!!!!!

  • heheheheheheh dave 'lets have massa go on!'

    i like that his engineer is called dave.

  • Hamilton catching Vettel!! Gonna be a great end to a great race

  • hrt weaving!

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

  • Deja vu for Button. Massa is intense at defending.

  • hrt weaving!

    ban them!!!!!

  • another podium please Jenson.. thats the least you can do for your team..

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

    ABout to get lapped by Vettel

  • Vettel pitted on lap 31

    Lewis pitted on lap 39

    Can Vettel make his tyres last??

  • Good drinking game- drink every time David Hobbs says "clag" referring to rubber build up offline.

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

    Is he beating the williams? on merit?

  • This is getting intense! Vettel's fastest isn't anything on Lewis's

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

    Is he beating the williams? on merit?

    yup

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

    Just do what I've done with rubens and just say he;s in something or another somewhere, like 56th or something

  • Good drinking game- drink every time David Hobbs says "clag" referring to rubber build up offline.

    Ooh, that's not a nice word.

  • good point from Tony Fernandes - Lap 46 and Heikki's still on the same lap as the leaders.

  • Yellow flag

  • Just realised I hadn't even looked at Heikki's position for the whole race because the action up the front has been too good #sorryHeikki

    Ahead of Maldonado

  • Sauber crashing again, oh dear

  • yup

    Big party tonight then if he can finish!

  • Checo's awful race continues...

  • sutil you muppet

  • Oh nice one perez

  • Ooh, that's not a nice word.

    he says it incessantly. And a fan 'helped' by giving him 'clag-myre'.

  • Perez has his optimism turned up to 11 today

  • ooh Heikkis on my telly!

  • who is perez going to hit next?

  • Perez has his optimism turned up to 11 today

    :)

  • he says it incessantly. And a fan 'helped' by giving him 'clag-myre'.

    What's wrong with Marbles?

  • who is perez going to hit next?

    Himself, in some crazy situation

  • sutil you muppet

    Medion must pay well...

  • C'MON LEWIS!!!

  • Perez has a penalty

  • Jenson, please overtake massa now..

  • Perez has a penalty

    What a day

  • What's wrong with Marbles?

    No idea. Did you hear Pirelli wanted them to stop and start calling it 'toffee'? Not a joke.

  • Lewis and Heikki together again ♥

  • Gooooo Lewis!!

  • 1.6secs

  • who is perez going to hit next?

    This is why having Kobayashi as a number 1 is a bad idea.

  • Button unable to get past Massa.

  • patience Lewis....easy now

  • Lewis took 1.3 s off Vettel

  • come on JB - if Vettels tyres go, we could have a 1-2......

  • Lewis and Heikki together again ♥

    best team mates everrrrrrr

  • would Red Bull want to hear what Vettel is saying right now?

  • Ant says Vettel sounds like a Dalek :D :D

  • No idea. Did you hear Pirelli wanted them to stop and start calling it 'toffee'? Not a joke.

    ?

  • hehehe crofty and ant say if the team can't hear vettel they may not have heard him say that his tyres are shot and he needs to stop..

  • No idea. Did you hear Pirelli wanted them to stop and start calling it 'toffee'? Not a joke.

    mmmm. Toffee is always positive.

  • hehehe crofty and ant say if the team can't hear vettel they may not have heard him say that his tyres are shot and he needs to stop..

    Isn't that obvious to see!?

  • hehehe crofty and ant say if the team can't hear vettel they may not have heard him say that his tyres are shot and he needs to stop..

    Yeah that will be the excuse won't it?

  • ?

    because it's all soft and stuff and because it hardens up like toffee

    Apparently it must be yummy to eat too

  • Jenson.. pllllleeeeeeaassseee over take massa.. it's massa for heavens sake..

  • Vettel can still signal to the pits though?

  • Buttons done him!

  • hehehe crofty and ant say if the team can't hear vettel they may not have heard him say that his tyres are shot and he needs to stop..

    All I have now is the mental image of vettel going EX-TER-MINATE LEW-IS EXTERMINAAATE thanks to the dalek comparison

  • Isn't that obvious to see!?

    it could be the team want him to stay out like mclaren did with lewis last week.

  • Jenson.. pllllleeeeeeaassseee over take massa.. it's massa for heavens sake..

    Done.

  • They clearly know what he wants but they won't stand for it :D

  • Vettel can still signal to the pits though?

    Morse code?

  • YES JENSON! podium!

  • luvly......

  • Yes jenson!

  • Jenson.. pllllleeeeeeaassseee over take massa.. it's massa for heavens sake..

    apparently he has

  • Vettel can still signal to the pits though?

    2 fingers or 1?

  • Yeah that will be the excuse won't it?

    It was a poorly timed stop. I've said all along he was going to want another stop. They pitted too early for 2 stops and too late for 3. A total bungle.

  • ?

    Pirelli said the consistency is more like toffee (the chewy kind), not marbles or clag. But when it hits you in the head, it's not as sweet, I guess.

  • Jenson on the podium, WOO!!

  • Morse code?

    I remember Schumi tapping the airbox once though?

  • Vettel can still signal to the pits though?

    The steering wheel has affirmative and negative buttons

  • It was a poorly timed stop. I've said all along he was going to want another stop. They pitted too early for 2 stops and too late for 3. A total bungle.

    well spotted!

  • i'm kinda excited for the prospect of a pass on track for the lead.. and it wont be vettell..

  • This is amazing!

  • This is gonna be a collison

  • GO GO GO

  • This is gonna be a collison

    Yup.

  • my word!!

  • I can't watch

  • Wow!

  • oh.my.god. Hamilton i'm not even a fan but come onnn!

  • OMG

  • GO LEWIS!

  • *grips bed*

  • oh.my.god. Hamilton i'm not even a fan but come onnn!

    another winner is always a plus :D

  • COME ON LEWIS

  • I really can't watch. Someone tell me when he's past please

  • Rosberg got past Massa as well.

  • Another perez penalty.. can't help but laugh now, what a shocking day...

  • Perez has ANOTHER penalty?

  • another winner is always a plus :D

    anyone by vettel..anyone

  • Nice from rosberg

  • Perez has ANOTHER penalty?

    You're suprised?

  • Rosberg and Massa. Massa goes wide.

  • WHy show us that you muppet?

  • erm Mark Webber made up nearly FIVE seconds on Massa on the last lap. What....?

  • anyone by vettel..anyone

    even schumacher?

  • come oooooon

  • WHat are you doing Lewis???

  • even schumacher?

    even schumacher!!!

  • even schumacher?

    even schumacher!!!

    wow

  • WEB 5th!!

  • erm Mark Webber made up nearly FIVE seconds on Massa on the last lap. What....?

    That's the cliff the tyres go off.

  • even schumacher?

    that pesky schumachers got me liking rosberg, grr

  • No Kers for vettel

  • You're suprised?

    no, just sorry for him...

  • Nobody can say the racing isnt better with these tyres now

  • :o

  • He's got him!!!

  • I feel sick I just can't watch this.

  • YESSSSSSSSSS

  • That's the cliff the tyres go off.

    and when Massa went wide?

  • GOOOO LEWIS!

  • Ha.

  • Lewis!!!

  • WOW.

  • AAAAAAAAA

  • Webber superquick

    Hamilton leads!

  • Thank god for that

  • YEEESSSSSSS

  • YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!!!!

  • woooooooooooooooo!

  • Awesome move Lewis

  • He's through !! Now run away boyo

  • now everyone pass please, i want rosberg on the podium!

  • I'd say there's been a fair mix of overtaking in and out of the DRS areas! Love it!!

  • did that just happen... ? really?? 4 laps before the end?

  • Buttons hungry for vettel

  • did webber and vettel swap cars at the last round of pitstops? ;-)

  • Surely Jenson can't catch Vettel...

    .......can he?

  • I'd say there's been a fair mix of overtaking in and out of the DRS areas! Love it!!

    me too

  • did that just happen... ? really?? 4 laps before the end?

    I think so?

  • is this actually formula 1 have i switched sports?..

  • The mute expressions on the Red Bull wall :D

  • From fuel leak to lead.

  • I'd say there's been a fair mix of overtaking in and out of the DRS areas! Love it!!

    did the overtaking in the DRS zones have much to do with the DRS then?

  • From fuel leak to lead.

    amazing.

  • ohh it's good to see Christian horner without that smug look on his face.. just for a race.. *phew*

  • Look of pain on Horners face...sweet

  • Surely Jenson can't catch Vettel...

    It'd be on the last lap if he can but I guess the tyres are only going to get worse for Vettel from here.

  • Di Resta defending 9th from Petrov and Kobi.

  • This is amazing

    Even though Pirelli off-road tyres are rubbish i am tempted to buy some! :D

  • From fuel leak to lead.

    I really hope that car holds together!

  • Webber?!

  • Jenson, you see that p1... that could have been yours... silly boy.

  • ohh it's good to see Christian horner without that smug look on his face.. just for a race.. *phew*

    I bet the BBC still go and talk to him though

  • JB 1.7 faster than Vettel last lap.........

    can he.....?

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

  • From fuel leak to lead.

    Half the credit goes to those mechanics who fixed him up with minutes to go

  • I hope Lewis makes it to the chequered flag, I like his stat of winning at least once each year since he debuted :)

  • Surely Jenson can't catch Vettel...

    webber catching him would be funnier

  • THIS is what Pirelli were asked to do ... make tyres that allow for overtaking at the end of the race :D

  • Half the credit goes to those mechanics who fixed him up with minutes to go

    yep, under so much pressure.

  • I bet the BBC still go and talk to him though

    of course. i'm looking forward to it.

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    Lewis.

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    I can give you worst driver...

    Seriously, first half of the race Rosberg, second half Hamilton.

  • Half the credit goes to those mechanics who fixed him up with minutes to go

    yep, under so much pressure.

    He had better shower his team with praise for this!

  • Button's not going to make it unless Vettel makes a major mistake.

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    hamilton

    perez has been entertaining

    webber has done a good job today

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    rosberg?

  • Oooh webber....

  • OH MY GOURD

  • well done webber

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    webber?

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    Rubens!!

    I don't even know if he;s still racing *looks*

  • Anyone have any thoughts on driver of the day? :D

    Heikki for beating a Sauber and a Williams :D

  • Oooh webber....

    Messy but it worked!

  • I don't even know if he;s still racing *looks*

    :)

  • I don't even know if he;s still racing *looks*

    BREAKING NEWS

    he is.

  • Webbers going to get P3

  • Heikki for beating a Sauber and a Williams :D

    Sauber who had two penalties #burstingbubbles

  • Vettel getting unlapped hahaha.

  • Mark leave Jenson alone. pleasee.

  • Heikki for beating a Sauber and a Williams :D

    Agreed.

  • BREAKING NEWS

    Will a Williams finish???

  • Don't look back button. Just drive!

  • Sauber who had two penalties #burstingbubbles

    it still counts!

  • Lewis is 4 seconds ahead of Vettel

  • it still counts!

    Not in my crazy mind...

  • Will a Williams finish???

    Both!?

  • Crofty brings up the best metaphors :)

  • Come on jenson

  • Both!?

    It's a dream come true!

  • i can't look.. Jenson.. just drive.. pleaassee

  • giving webber driver of the day if he gets on the podium

  • Alonso is out there somewhere too

  • oh come on.. not long now. hang on Jenson.. please save this race..

  • :(

  • Webbers got him :(

  • wooooooohoooooo

  • giving webber driver of the day if he gets on the podium

    done/

  • Ohhh blimey....

  • amazing race by Webber.

  • giving webber driver of the day if he gets on the podium

    same

  • that looked too easy

  • Block the inside line Jenson

  • Alonso is out there somewhere too

    MSC closing in on him.

  • same

    for sure

  • Fantastic webber

  • Jenson gave him that

  • Poor button. But what a move and race by webber!

  • OK yeah you're right - Webber done good today.

  • I'm glad Lewis has shown you he's not useless with tyres!!!

  • wow. This could really help Webber's season........

  • Been a strange day of good and bad for Jenson...

  • Di Resta out of the points now in 11th

  • I'm glad Lewis has shown you he's not useless with tyres!!!

    Everyone will forget by the next race :(

  • wow. This could really help Webber's season........

    Anything good at all will help.

    Yay!

  • Everyone will forget by the next race :(

    I've forgotten already

  • I'm glad Lewis has shown you he's not useless with tyres!!!

    In the last three laps Lewis has taken 5.2 seconds out of Vettel. Jenson has barely gained on Vettel at the same time

  • Lewis!!!

  • Driver of the day:

    Hamilton!!!

  • finally, a non Vettel win!!!! Woo!!

  • YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!

  • What a race.............. fantastic.

  • yay for no vettel winning.. boo for Jenson's lack of podium.

  • Varsha goes on about the red driver suits, dragons and good luck. Does he know they're not in them today?

  • Driver of the day:

    Hamilton!!!

    Definitely.

  • best race in aaaaaaaaages. Why weren't the ones I went to that good :D

  • Alonso beaten by Massa again...

  • 'i think we need to stop because our brains are frazzled' Ant :)

  • In the last three laps Lewis has taken 5.2 seconds out of Vettel. Jenson has barely gained on Vettel at the same time

  • 18th to 3rd. Good job, Webber.

  • I feel for Ant's frazzled brain

  • yay for no vettel winning.. boo for Jenson's lack of podium.

    yeah shame. Not how I saw it going at all!

  • What a drive by Webber

    18th to 3rd with no saftey cars!

  • Button did screw Vettel with that pit blunder though too. How many seconds did he lose there?

  • Awesome race

  • Sad for jenson but what a great run from Lewis and Mark

  • Button did screw Vettel with that pit blunder though too. How many seconds did he lose there?

    Team orders to put his own races into ruin to help Hamilton?

  • Congrats to Lewis!!!

  • Awesome race

    agreed!

  • Sad for jenson but what a great run from Lewis and Mark

    jb threw that win away

  • Wow, what a race. Two years ago you could have given Jenson a podium and written Mark off after 10 laps, gone and mown the lawn and come back to see them come home but now every lap is important. Amazing new era I reckon. Can't wait to go to Silverstone but how on earth are we going to follow it all?

  • i wanna know what JB is saying.....

  • Team orders to put his own races into ruin to help Hamilton?

    In that case he would just have parked in Vettels slot

  • Webber showed again that every now and then, he's true class.

  • That really was some drive from Webber as he was nowhere in the first part of the race

  • 2 Tilke tracks, 2 great races. Who woulda thunk it

  • jb threw that win away

    i know :( ... gutted.

  • only lapped by 5 cars <3 BRING ON THE UPGRADE!

  • i know :( ... gutted.

    he did a jaime :)

  • In that case he would just have parked in Vettels slot

    Ant was saying "why are the mechanics waving him through?" It's a bit like IT'S OBVIOUS!? He's completely in the way.

  • Button did screw Vettel with that pit blunder though too. How many seconds did he lose there?

    1-2. But Lewis won by 5.

  • Yaaaay rubens finished a race!

  • HRT actually finished too?!

  • 1-2. But Lewis won by 5.

    And was 5 up for the last couple of la[s

  • I just got a text from a friend that I didn't know had ever watched an F1 race in her life

    "Even I found the end of that race exciting"

  • Yaaaay rubens finished a race!

    well done to both Willamses

  • celebrations!

  • 1-2. But Lewis won by 5.

    Only because he could pull away once he was past. What lap did he get round on? He might well have run out of road, it's very hard to tell.

  • and dont forget, only one retirement too.

    I like F1 2011 :)

  • "Even I found the end of that race exciting"

    THAT is how a race should end. Well done Pirelli!

  • HEIKKI AND LEWIS <3

  • Heikki !!

  • Good on Heikki for coming up to congratulate Lewis

  • Awww is that Heikki ♥

  • Nice one Heiiki

  • Only remaining question:

    Will Alonso get a penalty for the DRS error.

  • i wanna know what JB is saying.....

    Can't wait to see his interview

  • Nice to see that Red Bull are not bulletproof!

  • awww heikki is so lovely

  • Will Alonso get a penalty for the DRS error.

    I can't believe he has not had one already

  • Good on Heikki for coming up to congratulate Lewis

    excellent stuff!

  • driver of the day: webber did very well driving for a team that hates him. but i was most impressed with massa i think.

  • Good on Heikki for coming up to congratulate Lewis

    what a guy :)

  • I wonder if DC is saying Hamilton is DOTD because he doesn't want to appear Red Bull biased?

  • Will Alonso get a penalty for the DRS error.

    I hope so. Both Ferraris escaping an obvious penalty would be a bit much

  • driver of the day: webber did very well driving for a team that hates him. but i was most impressed with massa i think.

    That was the Massa of old, not who we've seen for the last year or so

  • what a guy :)

    #points

  • Have a good Sunday peeps. Been a pleasure!

  • That was the Massa of old, not who we've seen for the last year or so

    Great drive from him.

  • Have a good Sunday peeps. Been a pleasure!

    Bye Steve

  • A lot of great drives today.

    Driver of the day for me has to be Lewis but Webber, Massa and Rosberg were all impressive

  • Will Alonso get a penalty for the DRS error.

    I can't believe he has not had one already

    it was only open for a short while, genuine mistake forgiven by the stewards?

    are the drivers able to open it at any time but only allowed when they get a light on the dash?

  • driver of the day: webber did very well driving for a team that hates him. but i was most impressed with massa i think.

    He was very good but he did fall off the road under pressure from Rosberg. He could have hung onto that I think.

  • Lewis is so emotional!

  • aw someone happy to win.

  • Hey Alonso. Massa. Is. Faster. Than. You.

    Can you confirm you understand this message? ;)

  • Have a good Sunday peeps. Been a pleasure!

    See ya Steve

  • big smiles!!!

  • Hey Alonso. Massa. Is. Faster. Than. You.

    :)

  • first person to ever win this race twice :D

  • I need a laydown to get over that.......

    Great race! have a good Sunday, peeps :) *waves*

  • Another week where everyone seems pretty happy on the podium. Even Vettel!

  • awww okay i can deal with him winning. but my goodness i'm disapointed.

  • Awww. Not a big hamilton fan but really pleased for him, maybe the anti-Vettel in me is just happy to see someone else win ;)

  • that was alonso's worst showing for a long time.

  • I can't believe he has not had one already

    Surely they want to see the race results before they decide ;)

  • Great race! have a good Sunday, peeps :) *waves*

    Thanks Barrie, you too!

  • Another week where everyone seems pretty happy on the podium. Even Vettel!

    He's got the moody look on now though!

  • awww okay i can deal with him winning. but my goodness i'm disapointed.

    I can undersatnd that totally.

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

  • oh Lewis, what is in your mind!

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

    Struggling with tyres?

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

    Is it because he was on the hard tyres & most of the rest were on softs?

  • Great race! have a good Sunday, peeps :) *waves*

    See ya Barrie

  • So when does Lewis get his penalty?

  • This is also a win for the McLaren mechanics.

    Superb job just before the start.

  • Oh lovely bit of banter there involving who gives out the trophies :D

  • Is it because he was on the hard tyres & most of the rest were on softs?

    Maybe

  • That is an ugly trophy. well done Mark and Lewis

  • awww okay i can deal with him winning. but my goodness i'm disapointed.

    Sorry Lou. :(

  • I need to get a screen cap of Lewis and Heikki to make it into my wallpaper <3

  • That is an ugly trophy. well done Mark and Lewis

    Is that a Spitoon?

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

    No idea.

  • di Resta under investigation. Shocking

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

    stuck in traffic?

  • the trophy is not a mug, i repeat, not a mug

  • This is also a win for the McLaren mechanics.

    Agreed. #points

  • so, in the end Vettel stretches his lead in the championship?

  • Agreed. #points

    Great job by them

  • You don't pour champagne into your trophy and not drink from it Hamilton.

  • Sorry Lou. :(

    hehe so nearly his 10th win.. so so nearly! it's annoying cause he really didn't help himself.

  • Just watching the start of the Marathon & have spotted my first Womble #happyfortherestoftheday

  • This is also a win for the McLaren mechanics.

    Every race win is a win for the mechanics

  • so, in the end Vettel stretches his lead in the championship?

    Yep.

  • I still don't understand why Webber was so useless in the first half of the race

    I never understand how people all seem to come from so far back and get on the podium. It's like qualifying is totally pointless. I mean Button's not a mug, so how do you get beaten by someone who started 18th??

  • The trophy looks like something out of Wall-E

  • Just watching the start of the Marathon & have spotted my first Womble #happyfortherestoftheday

    Ohhh rats. I was going to do a live post.

  • I never understand how people all seem to come from so far back and get on the podium. It's like qualifying is totally pointless. I mean Button's not a mug, so how do you get beaten by someone who started 18th??

    Erm... driver error?

    #sorryLou

  • I need to get a screen cap of Lewis and Heikki to make it into my wallpaper <3

    sidepodcast.poste…heikki-hugs-lewis

  • I never understand how people all seem to come from so far back and get on the podium. It's like qualifying is totally pointless. I mean Button's not a mug, so how do you get beaten by someone who started 18th??

    well.. getting the right pit crew may help you..

  • sidepodcast.poste…heikki-hugs-lewis

    woooo! That deserves a sidepodcast donation :D

  • Ohhh rats. I was going to do a live post.

    I think the race was too fantastic to be thinking about it until now

  • Lewis' criticism of the team in the pre-race interview? All is forgiven.

  • Erm... driver error?

    Not just him, it wasn't a personal thing. You could say the same about Rosberg, Massa, Alonso etc etc etc. If starting so far back gives such a strategy advantage, I just can't make any sense of it at all.....

  • oh Jenson what on earth were you thinking?..

  • I wonder what Seb thought of seeing Jenson parking in his spot

  • Whitmarsh quite critical of Jenson there

  • Not just him, it wasn't a personal thing. You could say the same about Rosberg, Massa, Alonso etc etc etc. If starting so far back gives such a strategy advantage, I just can't make any sense of it at all.....

    It's due to the stupid quali rules. People who go out in Q1 have at least two more sets of new soft tyres. Utterly insane rules

  • oh Jenson what on earth were you thinking?..

    He was in that spot last year, maybe he just went back to thinking he had to stop there?

    #graspingatreasons

  • woooo! That deserves a sidepodcast donation :D

    Donation, good idea!

  • It's due to the stupid quali rules. People who go out in Q1 have at least two more sets of new soft tyres. Utterly insane rules

    No, I think it's great that a guy who qualifies lower down gets a chance to save his race.

  • Whitmarsh quite critical of Jenson there

    i dont blame him

  • Not just him, it wasn't a personal thing. You could say the same about Rosberg, Massa, Alonso etc etc etc. If starting so far back gives such a strategy advantage, I just can't make any sense of it at all.....

    The first ten on the grid are stuck with starting on their qualy tyres whilst the others are not...

    Also as Mark went out in Q1 without using softs he had brand new sets to use....

  • nooo mum dont skype me now

  • show us the Rocket Red!

  • No, I think it's great that a guy who qualifies lower down gets a chance to save his race.

    Why should he get an advantage for doing a worse job?

  • VET BUT HAM? They're stuck in Malaysia. :D

  • sorry - poppd back - BBC Fail - top three?

    Vet But Ham? NOOOOOOO

  • VET BUT HAM? They're stuck in Malaysia. :D

    Bernie interfering with the race result

  • No, I think it's great that a guy who qualifies lower down gets a chance to save his race.

    It just seems very weird. Every week I seem to think of someone managing to make it up right through the field and in front of front runners with strategy that only seems open to them because they're behind. It totally baffles me.

  • Watch Red Bull sort out their KERS for Turkey.

  • 6 different leaders today. Awesome.

  • How long until RB gets the KERS working?

  • It's due to the stupid quali rules. People who go out in Q1 have at least two more sets of new soft tyres. Utterly insane rules

    i disagree. otherwise the pole sitter leads and wins. so why bother watching on sunday?

  • looking down?!?!?!

  • Lewis, get rid of the ear rings and the silly beard

  • Jenson has no explanation for his brainfade

  • Why should he get an advantage for doing a worse job?

    Why is starting 18th an advantage? It was great driving to not collide with anyone, use his tyres properly and climb back into the points!

  • There he is!!!

  • hehe, vettel called jenson's move 'a bit like the toro rosso' :)

  • Ahh we do get a Hornerview.

  • i disagree. otherwise the pole sitter leads and wins. so why bother watching on sunday?

    If someone outqualifies his team mate and gets through to Q3 and ends up P10 to his team mate's P11 the team mate he has outqualified gets the bonus of an extra set of fresh tyres. How is that fair?

  • i disagree. otherwise the pole sitter leads and wins. so why bother watching on sunday?

    Webber (or anyone outside top 10) has nothing to do with a different winner today, it's a separate issue.

  • hehe, vettel called jenson's move 'a bit like the toro rosso' :)

    hehe

    but toro rosso mechanics and red bull mechanics do at least look similar

  • Webber (or anyone outside top 10) has nothing to do with a different winner today, it's a separate issue.

    not saying it was? just saying it's good that those who go out early have more free tyres.

  • well Jenson thinks the first pitstops didn't affect his race, so i'm gonna hold the faith that it wasn't that one mistake the ruined my morning.

  • At least when jenson's had a dodgy day he's still positive and upbeat about things.

  • If someone outqualifies his team mate and gets through to Q3 and ends up P10 to his team mate's P11 the team mate he has outqualified gets the bonus of an extra set of fresh tyres. How is that fair?

    The team mate in Q3 can choose not to run or to just use hard tyres for qualy and scrub them in....

  • If someone outqualifies his team mate and gets through to Q3 and ends up P10 to his team mate's P11 the team mate he has outqualified gets the bonus of an extra set of fresh tyres. How is that fair?

    he's farther up the field? ergo, lower chance of an accident at the start etc.

  • Ohh the earings...

  • I'd just really like to see what happened if someone decided to just sit out quali. I don't think they'd do all that badly.... I think chasing grid positions the way they do clearly isn't worth it.

  • At least when jenson's had a dodgy day he's still positive and upbeat about things.

    he's good at staying positive after rubbish races. He's had years of practice

    #hondagrrr

  • If someone outqualifies his team mate and gets through to Q3 and ends up P10 to his team mate's P11 the team mate he has outqualified gets the bonus of an extra set of fresh tyres. How is that fair?

    They can use the same tyres from Q2?

  • Ohh the earings...

    hehe, bless lewis.

  • The team mate in Q3 can choose not to run or to just use hard tyres for qualy and scrub them in....

    But the point it he has done a better job and gets penalised for it. Do we really want no-one to run in Q3 to save tyres? Because that is what Webber's result today suggests is a better plan

  • Aww Lewis thanks his team. Well done lad.

  • I'd just really like to see what happened if someone decided to just sit out quali. I don't think they'd do all that badly.... I think chasing grid positions the way they do clearly isn't worth it.

    Petrov did just that if you think about it....

  • I'd just really like to see what happened if someone decided to just sit out quali. I don't think they'd do all that badly.... I think chasing grid positions the way they do clearly isn't worth it.

    They'd fail the 107% rule...

  • I'd just really like to see what happened if someone decided to just sit out quali. I don't think they'd do all that badly.... I think chasing grid positions the way they do clearly isn't worth it.

    Its probably worth doing Q2, I dont think using a set of tyres in Q3 is nececarily worth it at a high wear race

  • oh NOW lewis loves the team. #fickle

  • But the point it he has done a better job and gets penalised for it. Do we really want no-one to run in Q3 to save tyres? Because that is what Webber's result today suggests is a better plan

    the car is pretty good too

  • Aaargh German!

  • But the point it he has done a better job and gets penalised for it. Do we really want no-one to run in Q3 to save tyres? Because that is what Webber's result today suggests is a better plan

    With the benefit of hind sight they may have adjusted Sebs 2 stopper....

  • the car is pretty good too

    It's not 14 places better than Buttons

  • oh NOW lewis loves the team. #fickle

    soo pleased i'm not the only one thinking that.

  • oops mark almost said it's good Lewis beat seb :-)

  • With the benefit of hind sight they may have adjusted Sebs 2 stopper....

    red bull have been far too optimistic about what the hard tyre is capable of this weekend

  • oh NOW lewis loves the team. #fickle

    soo pleased i'm not the only one thinking that.

    He really needs to think about what he says sometimes..

  • dear seb, jenson is not a torro rosso..

  • He really needs to think about what he says sometimes..

    he's always had that issue tho lol

  • red bull have been far too optimistic about what the hard tyre is capable of this weekend

    Especially considering Webber ran so many sets of softs...

  • he's always had that issue tho lol

    yup.

  • oh NOW lewis loves the team. #fickle

    soo pleased i'm not the only one thinking that.

    He really needs to think about what he says sometimes..

    To be fair, you can say he's consistent. Criticize the bad and praise the good.

  • I wonder where Ferrari would have been on a 3 stopper....

    We'll never know....

  • Crofty sounds a bit hoarse but I'm not surprised after commentating that!

  • I had no idea the tv runs on such a delay? I watched a lot of this on the 5 live feed and now it's happening all over again.

  • I wonder after 2 great tilke races if abu dhabi are reconsidering their modifications

  • skype is over, looks like i didnt miss much :D

  • To be fair, you can say he's consistent. Criticize the bad and praise the good.

    :D

  • Whenever Mark gets a sttubble/beard he reminds me of Desperate Dan

    www.johnbarber.co…desperate-dan.jpg

  • I had no idea the tv runs on such a delay? I watched a lot of this on the 5 live feed and now it's happening all over again.

    i've quite often watched all of the presser on my tv before bbc shows it, because the bbc always shows other on the spot interviews first

  • I wonder after 2 great tilke races if abu dhabi are reconsidering their modifications

    abu dhabi will still be rubbish

    #sorrynick

  • Whenever Mark gets a sttubble/beard he reminds me of Desperate Dan

    ME TOO!

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

  • Hah Mark is reading the comments :D

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

    No I don't

  • abu dhabi will still be rubbish

    Based on what?

  • why do i recognise the music? the tiredness is getting to me

  • No I don't

    Be a Lewis then....

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

    Agreed!

  • When your own teams thinks it's somewhat a good thing Vettel didn't win again...

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

    seconded

  • abu dhabi will still be rubbish

    Based on what?

    She was probably just teasing you?

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

    Pirelli caused a mess. An amusing mess but a mess nonetheless.

  • I think any set of circumstances that allow for a lead change at the end of the race has to be appluaded!

  • Pirelli caused a mess. An amusing mess but a mess nonetheless.

    See the amusement ... but not the mess...

  • Yes! The RED in the McLaren garage!

  • Paul Di Resta is definitely the BBC's new golden driver ;)

  • I think any set of circumstances that allow for a lead change at the end of the race has to be appluaded!

    Competition yellow?

  • Competition yellow?

    Don't be such a raincloud on such a bright sunny day!

    You can't seriously be unhappy with the race today? It was brilliant!

  • who's up for some post race voicemails?

    +44 121 28 87225

    as long or short as you like.

  • why do i recognise the music? the tiredness is getting to me

    it's the band i keep hearing thinking they are passion pit.. but they aren't..

  • who's up for some post race voicemails?

    one coming in a bit!

  • I think any set of circumstances that allow for a lead change at the end of the race has to be appluaded!

    Competition yellow?

    How are low tech tyres the same as stopping a race?

  • who's up for some post race voicemails?

    Will do after the forumn matey :)

  • who's up for some post race voicemails?

    Will try after my football match... again.

  • only one retirement? wow.

  • I think any set of circumstances that allow for a lead change at the end of the race has to be appluaded!

    I don't agree. All these overtaking moves we're seeing are either against sitting ducks or around cars that are hampered by no DRS on the straight. I think you'd be able to see the real skill without such weird situations arising.

  • Haha DC gets corrected on the Heidfeld thing!

  • You can't seriously be unhappy with the race today? It was brilliant!

    Except no Kimi....

  • How are low tech tyres the same as stopping a race?

    Gavin said any circumstance that allows a late lead change is good. No its no necessarily so

  • See the amusement ... but not the mess...

    di Resta may disagree with you - his tyres were a complete mess at the end!

  • who's up for some post race voicemails?

    I have given you money in lieu of a voicemail. Booo voicemails.

  • I don't agree. All these overtaking moves we're seeing are either against sitting ducks or around cars that are hampered by no DRS on the straight. I think you'd be able to see the real skill without such weird situations arising.

    I don;t get it, there was plenty of overtaking that wasn't on the straight or the hairpin but just trying too get past in proper fights

  • You've have got to say Pirelli have done a good job...

    Agree, they were asked to make another Canadian GP and we got one. They met their brief.

  • I don;t get it, there was plenty of overtaking that wasn't on the straight or the hairpin but just trying too get past in proper fights

    Neither do I. I cannot see how anyone couldn't have enjoyed that?

  • Victory shirt for DC :D

  • heheheh yes DC wear the red top.. red bull with hate it

  • Paul Di Resta is definitely the BBC's new golden driver ;)

    I think so - nice to see one of the drivers I support on a high during the "golden boy" phase :)

    Like the DC top freebie.

  • Agree, they were asked to make another Canadian GP and we got one. They met their brief.

    Kinda scared to see what actually happens in canada though'!

  • heheheh yes DC wear the red top.. red bull with hate it

    :D

  • I don;t get it, there was plenty of overtaking that wasn't on the straight or the hairpin but just trying too get past in proper fights

    If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

  • If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

    MUCH better than last year though?

  • I'm switching to the marathon in the daily, cheers and enjoy the forum :)

  • right. time to rush into the shower.. back in a bit. silly morning races.

  • oh go on david put it on

  • If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

    I must have totally missed some of the defensive battles then that went just generic overtakes...

  • *weren't, even

  • Interesting choice of music. I like it! :)

  • If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

    Why does it have to be skillfull? You can have a mixture of skillfull pases and regular ones.

    Not every goal in football is amazing, sometimes people accidently pass it to the other team and they score stright away

  • DOCTOR WHOOOO advert!!

    oops, onto the red button...

  • Kinda scared to see what actually happens in canada though'!

    Yeah that could be mad

  • If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

    It's just like all the great overtakes when one car had a tankful of petrol more than the other.

    Things like Lewis passing Jenson without DRS on equal strategy are devalued because of passes where the driver being passed is a sutting duck

  • only one retirement? wow.

    Which was only because his team didn't put the tyre on properly. No correctly-installed components failed today (unless you count Hamilton's pre-race troubles).

  • If there's such a difference in tyre condition, it's hardly a skilful overtake.

    The skill is being on the right tyre at the right time

  • MUCH better than last year though?

    I don't know. It was better than last week when I could watch it with timing. I'm gonna have to cope with watching almost all of them on delay this season and tbh the commentators don't give you enough information to understand what's happening without the timing. You almost need to make your own chart as you go through of what tyre people are on and how many stops they've had.... Then the tv director misses several major moves. I don't get how you're supposed to know what's going on.

  • Neither do I. I cannot see how anyone couldn't have enjoyed that?

    I'm still worried Alonso could get disqualified...

  • Hahaha the winning top on DC :D

  • Red Bull will not be happy. :D

  • I'm still worried Alonso could get disqualified...

    I'm still hoping Alonso will get disqualified.

  • heheheh yes DC wear the red top.. red bull with hate it

    You've got your wish!

  • Back to sleep for me. An exciting race seems to have interrupted my peaceful sleep! ;)

    Good night/morning all.

  • DC in rocket red

    Nice to see the McLaren guys were not prepared to give up

  • Night Kai

  • Kinda scared to see what actually happens in canada though'!

    I may struggle to remember it if it's anything like last year

    #lackingsleepduetolemans

  • i like the welsh guy

  • i like the welsh guy

    Why am I not surprised they call him Taf :D

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

  • The skill is being on the right tyre at the right time

    Which would still be there if there was no DRS whatsoever.

  • Why am I not surprised they call him Taf :D

    very original :P

  • The skill is being on the right tyre at the right time

    Sort of. Almost always though someone would overtake and then the car they got round would peel off into the pits on that lap. It's all a bit pointless.

  • The skill is being on the right tyre at the right time

    Tyre management should be a required driver skill.

  • Ah, so that's why nobody was bothering to record the words spoken in the McLaren garage at that point, only ambient noise!

  • very original :P

    he must be related to my grandad. I didn't learn his real name until I was about 15 :D

  • DC in rocket red

    red bull are going to love that :)

  • DC in rocket red

    red bull are going to love that :)

    Awesomes.

  • #points for McLaren for making DC wear a Rocket Red shirt!

  • #lackingsleepduetolemans

    On the same day again?

    Bernie really likes to hit the competition!

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    I never said that before. I think I even left a voicemail last season saying I enjoyed Bahrain :P I guess you can't please everyone but this doesn't please me.

  • I don't know. It was better than last week when I could watch it with timing. I'm gonna have to cope with watching almost all of them on delay this season and tbh the commentators don't give you enough information to understand what's happening without the timing. You almost need to make your own chart as you go through of what tyre people are on and how many stops they've had.... Then the tv director misses several major moves. I don't get how you're supposed to know what's going on.

    Incident form and a good memory. It does take a certain amount of attention though. Dad and I worked out what was going on but Mum had to rely on us to explain the situation.

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    I think people are being overly positive about this season. This is much better than fuel stop racing but you can't think people overtaking by flattening a wing is proper overtaking. You can't think a driver who qualifies 15 places behind his team mate should be handed the advantage of two sets of fresh soft tyres over drivers who did a far better job with far worse equipment

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    You're lumping everyone together like that? From what I've seen, everyone wants different things from it.

  • I never said that before. I think I even left a voicemail last season saying I enjoyed Bahrain :P I guess you can't please everyone but this doesn't please me.

    Yeah I think I remember you did. What do you want to see in an F1 race then? Because I would stop watching F1 very quickly if there were more Bahrains...

  • I'm still hoping Alonso will get disqualified.

    Oh, I'd like Paul to score points, but it's a shame (if justified by the regulations) for that great drive to be discounted through a failure in the DRS override. Bit like Sauber in Australia.

  • Did you hear the Crofty audio there? :D

  • Haha, Brundle. HOW DID HE DO THAT?!! :)

  • You're lumping everyone together like that? From what I've seen, everyone wants different things from it.

    Not necessarily. I'm a little mystified that people didn't enjoy the race today?

  • Just to say if you want to see the professional runners in the marathon now's the time, I think their races may end during or soon after the forum..

  • Did you hear the Crofty audio there? :D

    they cut to him, ant and jason in the box. no idea why?

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    i loved it. this is my kinda f1. this is what i missed last year. #nodownshifting

  • they cut to him, ant and jason in the box. no idea why?

    Very quick reactions eh!

  • I'm sad that Ferrari haven't tweeted they deserved the win yet

  • they cut to him, ant and jason in the box. no idea why?

    part of the world feed, 'artistic' camera angle

  • I'm sad that Ferrari haven't tweeted they deserved the win yet

    :D

  • part of the world feed, 'artistic' camera angle

    yeah, they didn't do it again. poor cameraman had to walk all the way up there.

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    Different people complaining.

  • yeah, they didn't do it again. poor cameraman had to walk all the way up there.

    We saw a lot of FOM cameramen in silly places in Malaysia. Poor guy, you finally get into F1 and they make you stick your camera through a hedge.

  • heheheheheheheh!!

  • My conclusion after this race then is that there is no pleasing some fans. I honestly don't know what you guys want from F1. Last year was boring because the tyres were too hard and there was little overtaking, this year there's too much tyre wear and overtaking???

    Because different fans want radically different things, some mutually exclusive.

  • i loved it. this is my kinda f1. this is what i missed last year. #nodownshifting

    Same here. Was absolutely brilliant, and I don't care if there were artificial reasons - it was so enjoyable and completely different from the drudgery of some races last year. I wouldn't have got up live to see the Chinese Grand Prix if the rules were the same as last year.

  • What was he looking at?

    His shoes?

  • Also some are complaining about the artifice and/or that the balance is in the middle.

  • Not necessarily. I'm a little mystified that people didn't enjoy the race today?

    I did sort of. I really don't enjoy watching things I don't perceive to be "fair". I think giving advantages to drivers that have ended up behind, whether that be tyres or DRS is intrinsically unfair.

  • Red Bull aren;t speaking to him now he's been infected with rocket red

  • part of the world feed, 'artistic' camera angle

    yeah, they didn't do it again. poor cameraman had to walk all the way up there.

    asked 5live on twitter, they didn't know either :)

  • Different people complaining.

    Because different fans want radically different things, some mutually exclusive.

    OK fair enough. So if the fans want very different things and are not enjoying it, how do we expect the rulemakers to get it right?

    Does Formula 1 not have it's identity defined so well these days?

  • asked 5live on twitter, they didn't know either :)

    :D

  • We need more normal people responses! No PR stuff!

  • I'd have LOVED it if they'd pulled his wheel off

  • I think this race was won by the best strategy. A three-stops plan was better than the one Vettel follow, but anyway, I think Red Bull proved again the potential of their car.

    Webber, starting from the very back of the grid, finished 3rd, and Vettel was second visiting his box only twice.

    McLaren drivers did it excellent, as well as Schumacher. This one was a good race for him.

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

    he thinks jb was cheating?

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

    ooh I wondered that too

  • On the same day again?

    As usual!

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

    ooh I wondered that too

    gave lewis the win?

  • We need more normal people responses! No PR stuff!

    Yeah great stuff DC!

  • he thinks jb was cheating?

    I doubt it. Cost himself more time than it cost them.

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

    he thinks jb was cheating?

    really not helping people like them..

  • I doubt it. Cost himself more time than it cost them.

    but it helped lewis.

  • I doubt it. Cost himself more time than it cost them.

    Sacrificial move perhaps?

  • he thinks jb was cheating?

    If I had to cheat I'd prefer to do it in a way thats a whole lot less embarrassing

  • As if JB did that on purpose.... He's hardly a number 2 driver at that team... He was leading the race!

  • How many contracts are Red Bull exterminatng tonight?!

  • I doubt it. Cost himself more time than it cost them.

    If he was cheating he would have stayed there longer. I wonder what would happen if he had just parked there and turned off his engine

  • but it helped lewis.

    Barely.

  • Bernie really likes to hit the competition!

    Sportscars are perfectly capable of generating their own clashes because the various leagues can't even co-ordinate between themselves (there's an ILMC race clashing with an ALMS round, causing a problem for American ILMC entrants), let alone co-ordinate with other categories!

  • Jake and DC are just like 'well that was awkward....'

  • That guy's been spending too much time with Mark Webber clearly.... Is paranoia infectious? ;)

  • but it helped lewis.

    Barely.

    agreed.

  • I did sort of. I really don't enjoy watching things I don't perceive to be "fair". I think giving advantages to drivers that have ended up behind, whether that be tyres or DRS is intrinsically unfair.

    Understood. 2010 was very fair and even. That's probably why it was so hard to overtake?

  • but it helped lewis.

    Barely.

    if at all!

  • Sacrificial move perhaps?

    I think it's absolutely mental that people think he did that on purpose!

  • but it helped lewis.

    Jenson said that pitstop wouldn't have changed anything, he was struggling with his tyres.

  • if at all!

    it did a bit. vettel almost came to a stop.

  • If he was cheating he would have stayed there longer. I wonder what would happen if he had just parked there and turned off his engine

    don't give Schumi any ideas

  • Understood. 2010 was very fair and even. That's probably why it was so hard to overtake?

    I don't care if it's hard. It lets you appreciate the talent of those that manage it. I don't think I want to really watch people conserving equipment and calling that a talent. I don't enjoy that.

  • Sacrificial move perhaps?

    how many seconds did it cost Vettel, and how many seconds did he lose the race by?

    just a mistake by jb

  • OK fair enough. So if the fans want very different things and are not enjoying it, how do we expect the rulemakers to get it right?

    Balancing probabilites and catering to the most people possible while still adhering to the fundamental role and culture of F1.

  • Jenson said that pitstop wouldn't have changed anything, he was struggling with his tyres.

    it made no difference to jenson's final result, i agree. but it did help lewis a little.

  • If he was cheating he would have stayed there longer. I wonder what would happen if he had just parked there and turned off his engine

    don't give Schumi any ideas

    Felipe, Fernando would like you to park in Red Bull's pit box

  • it made no difference to jenson's final result, i agree. but it did help lewis a little.

    So Lewis would have overtaken two laps from the end instead of four.

  • how many seconds did it cost Vettel, and how many seconds did he lose the race by?

    it does raise the question, what happens if someone did that intentionally.

    "massa, park in the red bull box and do not move"

  • Judy Murray says "How pumped is Lewis Hamilton? Gr8 race. Looked like he was loving that champagne shower too.Cud we hav a bit of that at tennis finals?;)"

  • So Lewis would have overtaken two laps from the end instead of four.

    something like that, yeah.

  • I don't care if it's hard. It lets you appreciate the talent of those that manage it. I don't think I want to really watch people conserving equipment and calling that a talent. I don't enjoy that.

    I missed half the races last year because they weren't exciting.

  • it made no difference to jenson's final result, i agree. but it did help lewis a little.

    that's all i need to know :)

    but you know Jenson is always nice to his team mates :)

  • something like that, yeah.

    Big ol' cheats.

  • ooh Red Bull man being controversial

    I think JB had brain fade, pure and simple. I've seen it before from people who should have known better...

  • Woo, Brundle Studio!

  • I think it's absolutely mental that people think he did that on purpose!

    Has to be explored no matter how mental the idea is.

  • OK fair enough. So if the fans want very different things and are not enjoying it, how do we expect the rulemakers to get it right?

    There are ways to keep everyone happy

  • So Lewis would have overtaken two laps from the end instead of four.

    Most likely yes. It's hard to compare like that though. He might well have run out of road. It's hard to tell how much that put Vettel off, it must have thrown him a bit.

  • thank you fbfb. great race.

  • There are ways to keep everyone happy

    I disagree.

  • thank you fbfb. great race.

    Indeed. Massive effort Christine and very much appreciated!

  • ooh its only 7.30. It feels like about 11 or something. Stupid daytime race.

  • Thank you fbfb :D

  • I think this race was won by the best strategy. A three-stops plan was better than the one Vettel follow, but anyway, I think Red Bull proved again the potential of their car.

    Two stops was better, but only under three conditions, none of which were met by everyone:

    1) You and your car are both kind to your tyres

    2) You time your tyre swaps perfectly, to the lap

    3) Pérez doesn't crash into you

  • Has to be explored no matter how mental the idea is.

    Exactly. Just like Joe's comment that the stewards could have considered the possibility tha Fernando deliberately crashed into Lewis

  • There are ways to keep everyone happy

    you kind of ideal racing would turn me to tennis. true story.

  • There are ways to keep everyone happy

    Can you have refuelling and not have refuelling at the same time?

  • Can you have refuelling and not have refuelling at the same time?

    :) :) :)

  • "massa, park in the red bull box and do not move"

    that would get ferrari a penalty. they listen to team radios. eventually, as was the case with lewis in Aus GP when he overtook Trulli

  • thank you fbfb. great race

    I agree Mr C

  • OK fair enough. So if the fans want very different things and are not enjoying it, how do we expect the rulemakers to get it right?

    I think changing EVERYTHING all at once is daft. Why not one thing at a time? You can't tell what's causing what effect. It just seems like total bedlam to me watching.

    My real real issue is without timing, I can't follow the race without devoting 100% attention to watching.

  • you kind of ideal racing would turn me to tennis. true story.

    It would not. Your view of what you think I want would but what I really want would not

  • If I had to cheat I'd prefer to do it in a way thats a whole lot less embarrassing

    Agreed!

  • you kind of ideal racing would turn me to tennis. true story.

    Not so much a bad thing :P

  • you kind of ideal racing would turn me to tennis. true story.

    Same here. I prefer 2011 so much more than 2010.

    And the other thing is, all my colleagues who weren't really watching last year are coming up to me and telling me how much they enjoyed the race!!!

    The formula is working fine I reckon.

  • It would not. Your view of what you think I want would but what I really want would not

    i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

  • i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

    japan 2006 was the best race ever.

  • i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

    You could never do that properly though. They even had trouble with that in WTCC,,,

  • And the other thing is, all my colleagues who weren't really watching last year are coming up to me and telling me how much they enjoyed the race!!!

    Lots of people in work have talked to me about F1 this year after watching and they've never really talked about it before yet they're absolutely loving it, and this is even with early races

  • i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

    How are you going to set them. People are not going to go all out in quali if they know every tenth they squeeze out is going to cost them

  • i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

    roll on monaco for that one

    karthikeyan for the win!!!

  • japan 2006 was the best race ever.

    is that the one Alonso won? or was that 2007? i can't remember..

  • How are you going to set them. People are not going to go all out in quali if they know every tenth they squeeze out is going to cost them

    SURPRISE! :D

  • How are you going to set them. People are not going to go all out in quali if they know every tenth they squeeze out is going to cost them

    true. but that is my ideal.

  • I have no problem with reverse grids. I have a huge problem with partial reverse grids

  • karthikeyan for the win!!!

    he'll win a race this year

    (on F1 2011, on super easy mode, with everyone else driving backwards, and damage off)

  • How are you going to set them. People are not going to go all out in quali if they know every tenth they squeeze out is going to cost them

    You could sometimes have a reverse grid and sometimes not.

  • I think changing EVERYTHING all at once is daft. Why not one thing at a time? You can't tell what's causing what effect. It just seems like total bedlam to me watching.

    I agree with that, but they have tried incremental stuff before and it didn't really work. I think also that if you change lots of things it confuses the strategists and simulators to add that random element.

  • true. but that is my ideal.

    you can do it on championship positon

  • You could sometimes have a reverse grid and sometimes not.

    No. Definitely not.

  • Ohh I have to head over the shop in a minute, my own london marathon for this morning.

  • No. Definitely not.

    Then they'd have to go fast all the time, because they wouldn't know.

  • I have no problem with reverse grids. I have a huge problem with partial reverse grids

    How is that less artificial than a DRS, KERS and crap tyres though?

  • Can you have refuelling and not have refuelling at the same time?

    Flip a coin (which would probably be equally pleasing to both*?)

    * - i.e. absolutely detested!

  • you can do it on championship positon

    that might be interesting. am just thinking about the webber/brundle discussion about banning qualifying. just reverse championship position on sunday might be good.

    why do we have qualifying?

  • that would get ferrari a penalty. they listen to team radios. eventually, as was the case with lewis in Aus GP when he overtook Trulli

    What if the instruction was passed over in the team motorhome after qualifying, to do the move on a set lap or on an innocuous trigger?

  • i want reverse grids. that's my ideal race.

    so do you like the 107% rule?

  • Wow!! From Mike Gascoyne

    Jarno quickest race lap quicker than fernando and only 7 tenths down on Vettal, what's all that about. Need to sort out qualifying

  • so do you like the 107% rule?

    you need a way to keep unsafe, slow moving cars out of the way, yeah. hispania were dangerous in melbourne.

  • No. Definitely not.

    Then they'd have to go fast all the time, because they wouldn't know.

    I understand why you want it but for me one of the fundamental principles of sport is that the same rules apply to all competitors at all times. One day a driver does well in quali and gets the only pole of his career and ends up at the back through random chance. Next race he has a bad session and ends up 20 places better off.

  • japan 2006 was the best race ever.

    You mean 2005, right? I enjoyed 2006 (apart from anything else it was Fisi's penultimate podium), but not many people say it was the best race ever

  • why do we have qualifying?

    Because they realised at the first Monaco Grand Prix that drawing lots would be unfair as there would be little overtaking. Or so I heard?

  • I understand why you want it but for me one of the fundamental principles of sport is that the same rules apply to all competitors at all times. One day a driver does well in quali and gets the only pole of his career and ends up at the back through random chance. Next race he has a bad session and ends up 20 places better off.

    I don't want it. You asked a question, I offered up a suggestion.

  • Jarno quickest race lap quicker than fernando and only 7 tenths down on Vettal, what's all that about. Need to sort out qualifying

    So how come he still managed to finish low down then? One off lap sure.

  • I understand why you want it but for me one of the fundamental principles of sport is that the same rules apply to all competitors at all times. One day a driver does well in quali and gets the only pole of his career and ends up at the back through random chance. Next race he has a bad session and ends up 20 places better off.

    I think it was a tongue in cheek comment!

  • You mean 2005, right? I enjoyed 2006 (apart from anything else it was Fisi's penultimate podium), but not many people say it was the best race ever

    ahh, yes. sorry. top names fighting through the field.

  • I like how Felipe says Lewis.

  • I think changing EVERYTHING all at once is daft. Why not one thing at a time? You can't tell what's causing what effect. It just seems like total bedlam to me watching.

    Why not test regulatory ideas properly (perhaps in non-championship races) instead of lobbing them into races without understanding whether and how they work?

  • so do you like the 107% rule?

    you need a way to keep unsafe, slow moving cars out of the way, yeah. hispania were dangerous in melbourne.

    so why put the dangerous cars where everyone will need to get by them???

  • Jarno quickest race lap quicker than fernando and only 7 tenths down on Vettal, what's all that about. Need to sort out qualifying

    Break out the turd polish lads...

  • Because they realised at the first Monaco Grand Prix that drawing lots would be unfair as there would be little overtaking. Or so I heard?

    And that there were more entries than spots on the grid.

  • that might be interesting. am just thinking about the webber/brundle discussion about banning qualifying. just reverse championship position on sunday might be good.

    You could still have it but call it something else.

    Time trial on saturday -50% of current points?,

    Race on Sunday.

  • so why put the dangerous cars where everyone will need to get by them???

    they were dangerous because they were 7 seconds off the pace. they've not been a problem since. but you don't want someone out there running F3 pace or worse.

  • I think it was a tongue in cheek comment!

    It happens in some championships. BTCC at one point had quali sessions and after the session someone drew a number from a hat and if they for example drew 6 the first 6 positions on the grid were reversed.

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

    thats what I spent most of today doing, I barely looked at the timing.

  • is that the one Alonso won? or was that 2007? i can't remember..

    Raikkonen 2005, Alonso 2006, Hamilton 2007.

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

    thats what I spent most of today doing, I barely looked at the timing.

    Me neither.

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

    I imagine it is impossible to follow a race like today's without all available info

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

    I don't look at the timing for the race usually, only depend on 5 live

  • thats what I spent most of today doing, I barely looked at the timing.

    With the comments....

  • Lewis's pass on Massa is amazing. He only used half the width of the track on the exit

  • you can do it on championship positon

    They did that in 2005 (in conjunction with single-lap qualifying) and it did nothing for me.

  • With the comments....

    So why don't you just load up the FBFB replay to follow with the race when you watch to make it easier for you to understand?

  • They did that in 2005 (in conjunction with single-lap qualifying) and it did nothing for me.

    Mmm, single-lap qualifying.

  • With the comments....

    I reckon i could do it without the comments. As long as you pay attention to the on screen graphics as well as the actual race action.

  • They did that in 2005 (in conjunction with single-lap qualifying) and it did nothing for me.

    I am not keen on it either but it is a fair consistent system that is hard to fiddle

  • FBFB replay: sidepodcast.com/p…1-race-highlights

  • So why don't you just load up the FBFB replay to follow with the race when you watch to make it easier for you to understand?

    It's so hard not to notice the race result.

  • Jarno quickest race lap quicker than fernando and only 7 tenths down on Vettal, what's all that about. Need to sort out qualifying

    Marvellous stuff!

  • So why don't you just load up the FBFB replay to follow with the race when you watch to make it easier for you to understand?

    Going back to my colleagues - one of whom was on here and felt the stream was too hard to follow - none of them have complained that it's too hard to follow.

  • Mmm, single-lap qualifying.

    I argued for that for years and when it happened I didn't like it because minor weather changes made such a huge difference.

  • It's so hard not to notice the race result.

    Looking at the homepage it seems easy enough to get to the replay without getting spoilt

  • tony has extrapolated today's race data: http://flic.kr/p/9zfy5U

    holy wow.

  • Looking at the homepage it seems easy enough to get to the replay without getting spoilt

    I haven't done the results yet though :)

  • Looking at the homepage it seems easy enough to get to the replay without getting spoilt

    The only spoiler bit would be the fbfb in the main window but by sunday night it would most likely be gone by then

  • I haven't done the results yet though :)

    Ahh, true enough..

  • tony has extrapolated today's race data: http://flic.kr/p/9zfy5U

    That looks a bit like James Allens graphs to me, wayyyyy to much going on!

  • I haven't done the results yet though :)

    Could you not put the result in the little description thingy and instead something like 'China served up an entertaining race...' instead, avoid spoilers etc.

  • I do sound whiny now, I am aware. This F1 doesn't fit in with what I like or with my lifestyle. Even having a list of how many stops people have had makes so much difference to understanding and that just isn't available after the fact. It comes up about once a race on the tv.

  • That looks a bit like James Allens graphs to me, wayyyyy to much going on!

    Agreed. Less is more, like this graph www.flickr.com/ph…1/in/photostream/

  • I do sound whiny now, I am aware. This F1 doesn't fit in with what I like or with my lifestyle. Even having a list of how many stops people have had makes so much difference to understanding and that just isn't available after the fact. It comes up about once a race on the tv.

    I think you have made some good points. It will be interesting to see if your fears come true or not.

  • I really do challenge any of you to come in on a Sunday night and watch the race with only the tv and Brundle's commentary to inform you of what's happening.

    Easy. Did it precisely like that (plus in-race-generated written notes) this morning.

  • EJ - You are the only one

  • EJ - You are the only one

    BBC coverage is so much better without him!

  • I do sound whiny now, I am aware. This F1 doesn't fit in with what I like or with my lifestyle. Even having a list of how many stops people have had makes so much difference to understanding and that just isn't available after the fact. It comes up about once a race on the tv.

    I don't think you are whiny. You made your case just like everyone else

  • So how come he still managed to finish low down then? One off lap sure.

    Absolutely.

  • EJ - You are the only one

    There has to be more than one because there are no genuine EJ accounts and I also missed him (I hasten to add that I have no fake accounts of any kind).

  • I think you have made some good points. It will be interesting to see if your fears come true or not.

    I think I'll end up missing a few races I guess. I tend to watch on Sunday nights when I get home after work. If I can't potter around and make my dinner etc. and still keep up then it's hard to find time.

  • BBC coverage is so much better without him!

    I thought that with DC doing commentary and Jake being left on his own that it may not be so good but it is a lot better without EJ. I am surprised Jake didn't grab Karun or Bruno or someone to fill the gapw

  • I thought that with DC doing commentary and Jake being left on his own that it may not be so good but it is a lot better without EJ. I am surprised Jake didn't grab Karun or Bruno or someone to fill the gapw

    Ooh good point.

  • It happens in some championships. BTCC at one point had quali sessions and after the session someone drew a number from a hat and if they for example drew 6 the first 6 positions on the grid were reversed.

    I think that might have been when I stopped following it for a few years...

  • Mike is a bit more realistic than Tony: Tony just said he can smell points, I think that is just the Peking Duck I had last night for dinner. Glad the boss is happy though

  • Mike is a bit more realistic than Tony: Tony just said he can smell points, I think that is just the Peking Duck I had last night for dinner. Glad the boss is happy though

    :D

  • Mike is a bit more realistic than Tony: Tony just said he can smell points, I think that is just the Peking Duck I had last night for dinner. Glad the boss is happy though

    Tony must be thinking that he will get his hands on group Lotus sooner rather than later.

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    colour is speed, lines show geo position. amazingly fast analysis!

  • I wonder what would have happened if Lewis had gone into the Red Bull pit. That would have increased the rumours

  • Results ping: sidepodcast.com/p…-2011-race-result

    Not doing standings until the FIA decide whether they're inventing some random penalties this week or not.

  • Dc's getting all romantic with jake?

  • Not doing standings until the FIA decide whether they're inventing some random penalties this week or not.

    Good plan :)

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    and lewis' - www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627157594

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    I missed the laps where Jenson went across turns 1 nd 2 :)

  • I am not keen on it either but it is a fair consistent system that is hard to fiddle

    It wasn't fair, it wasn't consistent and only sporting honour prevented it from getting fiddled in 2005.

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    F1 needs a lot more of this kind of info

  • http://twitpic.com/4lyy7p - Heikki coming up!

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    ooh artistic.

  • http://twitpic.com/4lyy7p - Heikki coming up!

    yaaaay. now stop buffering please, mr forum :)

  • No rocket red for DC this time ;)

  • WOOOOO for Webber!!! :D

    "More tactical and less like racing" #fickle

  • button's laps analysed: www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627152666

    and lewis' - www.flickr.com/ph…61@N00/5627157594

    Why do you need a flikr login to see them?

  • Can't please the drivers either.

    Webbo: "Not really a fan of how it is now, the guys have nothing left to come back with, so overtaking's not always genuine but that's how it is now. A bit more tactical, less racing."

  • heheh i love that they call this 'mclaren panic' :)

  • WOOOOO for Webber!!! :D

    "More tactical and less like racing" #fickle

    Strange comment from a man who benefited from all of that today?

  • Why do you need a flikr login to see them?

    when I went to the link it told me they were above my safesearch settings. Didn't look like inappropriate content to me :D

  • Webbo: "Not really a fan of how it is now, the guys have nothing left to come back with, so overtaking's not always genuine but that's how it is now. A bit more tactical, less racing."

    I am becoming a Webber fan

  • I thought that with DC doing commentary and Jake being left on his own that it may not be so good but it is a lot better without EJ. I am surprised Jake didn't grab Karun or Bruno or someone to fill the gapw

    It needed EJ for balance - but Bruno did a good balancing job in qualifying.

  • Strange comment from a man who benefited from all of that today?

    He is a racer. He wants to beat people because he is better not because his letter box is open and the other guy's is closed

  • Strange comment from a man who benefited from all of that today?

    No-one wants to take it if it's too easy! You want the other driver to put up a good fight and for you to still prove you're better. There's surely no ego boost from driving round a car with ruined tyres?

  • Mike is a bit more realistic than Tony: Tony just said he can smell points, I think that is just the Peking Duck I had last night for dinner. Glad the boss is happy though

    :D

  • No-one wants to take it if it's too easy! You want the other driver to put up a good fight and for you to still prove you're better. There's surely no ego boost from driving round a car with ruined tyres?

    If I started 18th and finished 3rd, I'd take it, too easy or not!

  • Webbo: "Not really a fan of how it is now, the guys have nothing left to come back with, so overtaking's not always genuine but that's how it is now. A bit more tactical, less racing."

    Not sure about that

    Its a bit like it was with with refueling, You can go quicker and use up your resource, but then you will need to go slower later on or stop again and loose time there.

  • If I started 18th and finished 3rd, I'd take it, too easy or not!

    There is no pleasure if it is easy

  • Not doing standings until the FIA decide whether they're inventing some random penalties this week or not.

    Perez. Heidfeld and both Force Indias are still under investigation and I think Alonso might get disqualified. Good call.

  • Crofty: So difficult to try & work out strategy with non stop action on the track. Mclaren spot on with Lewis, should Seb have run a 3 stopper?

  • If I started 18th and finished 3rd, I'd take it, too easy or not!

    I think that should be about skill and talent though. If he doesn't think he's pulled many awesome moves to do it then what have you achieved....

  • Perez. Heidfeld and both Force Indias are still under investigation and I think Alonso might get disqualified. Good call.

    Fantasy Racers will have to wait then!

  • Poor Crofty

    As for my press conf blunder, big apologies to UBS, got it right the 2nd time. Got a little confused with USP Content who produce 5-Live F1

    Least he didnt call them a USB pen

  • As for my press conf blunder, big apologies to UBS, got it right the 2nd time. Got a little confused with USP Content who produce 5-Live F1

    he said USP?

  • I think that should be about skill and talent though. If he doesn't think he's pulled many awesome moves to do it then what have you achieved....

    A great score on any Fantasy Racers game that awards overtaking moves ;)

  • As for my press conf blunder, big apologies to UBS, got it right the 2nd time. Got a little confused with USP Content who produce 5-Live F1

    ooooops

  • Perez. Heidfeld and both Force Indias are still under investigation and I think Alonso might get disqualified. Good call.

    What did Perez do again?

  • Strange comment from a man who benefited from all of that today?

    Which puts him in the most objective place to comment.

  • he said USP?

    USB :D

  • he said USP?

    apparently so!

  • from the Fanvision twitter: Big error on the Unilat commentator's part. He said USB instead of UBS. That won't be appreciated by the title sponsor.

  • I still can't believe we had a race where the lead of the grand prix was fought for and won right at the end of the race. awesomes.

  • Crofty: So difficult to try & work out strategy with non stop action on the track. Mclaren spot on with Lewis, should Seb have run a 3 stopper?

    As soon as he had to make his first stop so soon, they should have seen the 2 stop was off. It's the same mistake Lewis made in the last race, only he blinked and pitted at the end. You need to spread your stops as evenly as possible across the race distance.

  • from the Fanvision twitter: Big error on the Unilat commentator's part. He said USB instead of UBS. That won't be appreciated by the title sponsor.

    usp, not 'b', surely?

  • What did Perez do again?

    Gave Sutil a good whack on lap 47.

  • bit of a euphemism from Lewis there!

  • I still can't believe we had a race where the lead of the grand prix was fought for and won right at the end of the race. awesomes.

    I think that's what I appreciate most about the race, I just don't let the whole artificial racing stuff bother me. It was just a great race that went to the end, exactly what f1 should be to me :)

  • usp, not 'b', surely?

    maybe he combined the two into some sort of superly-wrong acronym :D

  • I think that's what I appreciate most about the race, I just don't let the whole artificial racing stuff bother me. It was just a great race that went to the end, exactly what f1 should be to me :)

    Sums it up perfectly.

  • What did Perez do again?

    Pretty much crashed into everyone and got about 6 penalties :P

  • Pretty much crashed into everyone and got about 6 penalties :P

    He did a Sutil then ;)

  • Gave Sutil a good whack on lap 47.

    I thought that was already penalised for... my mistake. Thought he managed to do something else.

  • He did a Sutil then ;)

    To sutil, ironically

  • I think that's what I appreciate most about the race, I just don't let the whole artificial racing stuff bother me. It was just a great race that went to the end, exactly what f1 should be to me :)

    It's difficult for me to tolerate it as much now that I've started following sportscars as well. A few years ago (especially before I first joined F1 forums) I might have been more tolerant.

  • I thought that was already penalised for... my mistake. Thought he managed to do something else.

    he got two penalties apparently.

  • eh? what did DC just hint?

  • eh? what did DC just hint?

    I missed that too?

  • eh? what did DC just hint?

    Missed it

  • am confused.. what?..

  • It's difficult for me to tolerate it as much now that I've started following sportscars as well. A few years ago (especially before I first joined F1 forums) I might have been more tolerant.

    But sportscars tends to have that sort of action but stretched out over a longer time period.

  • eh? what did DC just hint?

    that was awkward

  • I thought that was already penalised for... my mistake. Thought he managed to do something else.

    No, that was the Heidfeld crash on lap 44 that got penalised...

  • he got two penalties apparently.

    He only took one!

  • that was awkward

    What did he say, hint at? I totally missed it

  • What did he say, hint at? I totally missed it

    SOmething about EJ and earplugs?

  • But sportscars tends to have that sort of action but stretched out over a longer time period.

    If you follow the prototypes, it is spread out. With the GTs... ...less so.

  • What did he say, hint at? I totally missed it

    I don't know, just a really odd awkward moment between jake and DC?

  • SOmething about EJ and earplugs?

    Fair enough. Hopefully BBC will consider EJ's position

  • SOmething about EJ and earplugs?

    a reminder he shouldnt take out his ear piece during an interview??

  • a reminder he shouldnt take out his ear piece during an interview??

    Something like that. Perhaps a reference to him forgetting the question on the last forum?

  • SOmething about EJ and earplugs?

    Ronproofing?

  • a reminder he shouldnt take out his ear piece during an interview??

    Jake went all headmaster on him

    'Good, I shouldn;t expect that to happen again'

  • Fair enough. Hopefully BBC will consider EJ's position

    I think Jake really likes working with Eddie tbh. If he didn't, he might be much more in jeopardy.

  • a reminder he shouldnt take out his ear piece during an interview??

    Didnt EJ do that with matershitz?

  • Mike always looks terrified when hes on camera

  • I wonder how many people were at the track today?

  • Mike always looks terrified when hes on camera

    He does incredibly well in front of a camera despite that.

  • If RB had a good strategist they would be totally unbeatable. Completely untouchable.

  • If RB had a good strategist they would be totally unbeatable. Completely untouchable.

    Totally agree with that. Vettel was miles ahead yesterday. They fluffed up Webber's qually and should have switched Vettel onto a 3 stopper...

  • DC doesn;t even know when he's racing!

  • Oh dear more awkward....

  • The message to EJ made me laugh.

  • Why is Eddie not there? I really get the impression he's not missed ;)

  • wohoo just in time for me to go out.

    am off to my aunt's to look after her dog. back soon! :)

  • Why is Eddie not there? I really get the impression he's not missed ;)

    Not by DC that's for sure!

  • wohoo just in time for me to go out.

    See ya lou

  • Why is Eddie not there? I really get the impression he's not missed ;)

    He won a yacht race in the south-east Carribean on Wednesday.

  • wohoo just in time for me to go out.

    Have a nice day, see you later!

  • He won a yacht race in the south-east Carribean on Wednesday.

    Good for him!

  • Why is Eddie not there? I really get the impression he's not missed ;)

    I think this is his version of Brundle's Hungarian holiday

  • I think this is his version of Brundle's Hungarian holiday

    He picked a good country to miss (though not the best race). And he is in a race, so he's probably using a legitimate "sporting competition" contractual loophole (the same that allows DC to do DTM).

  • I think this is his version of Brundle's Hungarian holiday

    Hmm after seeing the others have trouble in China I don't blame him...

  • I think this is his version of Brundle's Hungarian holiday

    If the BBC wouldnt let brundle do that, why let EJ?

  • Hmm after seeing the others have trouble in China I don't blame him...

    Brundle had to give that up though!

  • huge thank you to everybody who commented today. don't forget, if you have more to say, the voicemail number is: +44 121 28 87225

    cheers all!

  • If the BBC wouldnt let brundle do that, why let EJ?

    A holiday is different from a sporting competition. DC's allowed to miss races for his DTM commitments and sailing is another form of racing.

  • huge thank you to everybody who commented today. don't forget, if you have more to say, the voicemail number is: +44 121 28 87225

    Thank you for Doohicky! :)

    *Bad Nick

  • maybe hes only sailing because they wouldnt let him into China anyway. It's not like its exactly the same weekend every year.

  • maybe hes only sailing because they wouldnt let him into China anyway. It's not like its exactly the same weekend every year.

    Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

  • Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

    :D

  • Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

    We need an EJRumous twitter account

  • Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

    of course

  • maybe hes only sailing because they wouldnt let him into China anyway. It's not like its exactly the same weekend every year.

    It was the same weekend in 2009 (which was the last non-volcanoed Chinese GP).

  • maybe hes only sailing because they wouldnt let him into China anyway. It's not like its exactly the same weekend every year.

    Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

    Who knows if he was actually going?

    We only found out this year when they went on air

  • I don't think I could ever be a conspiracy theorist.

  • Who knows if he was actually going?

    He definitely was last year from the complaining about airports that was going on. If the yacht race explains 2009 and 2011, then that would have had rather more notice.

  • Eddie engineered an ash cloud to avoid the Chinese GP??

    worked out well for him.

  • huge thank you to everybody who commented today. don't forget, if you have more to say, the voicemail number is: +44 121 28 87225

    Just left a voicemail via Skype. Let me know if it came through as it's my first time trying :)

  • I don't buy it. I do admit it's a bit odd they didn't mention it last week but odd is about the limit.

  • Just left a voicemail via Skype. Let me know if it came through as it's my first time trying :)

    will do. have just switch off the machines cause i'm off to bed, but will tweet/comment later if it didn't. cheers janna.

  • will do. have just switch off the machines cause i'm off to bed, but will tweet/comment later if it didn't. cheers janna.

    Thanks, sleep well

  • I am off too, shower, PJs, then blogging :)

  • Did kovaleinen lap the Virgins?

  • Did kovaleinen lap the Virgins?

    Hard to tell. He was lapped by Lewis in the last lap or 2 and Lewis did lap them twice. If he didn't, he was coming up behind them for sure.

  • Did kovaleinen lap the Virgins?

    Looks like they both did, wow! www.fia.com/en-GB…lassification.pdf

  • Looks like they both did, wow! www.fia.com/en-GB…lassification.pdf

    How can you tell from that?

  • How can you tell from that?

    Gap From Trulli is 1 lap

  • Gap From Trulli is 1 lap

    It says that in front of Sutil as well and I know Heikki was only lapped by Lewis at the very end. He wasn't lapped by the whole field.... So I don't think that's what that means.

  • Gap From Trulli is 1 lap

    Not sure if thats right actually.there probably is a way to do it with laps completed though

  • He would have been very close to lapping them yes but I don't think there's enough information there to tell if he did or didn't.

  • He would have been very close to lapping them yes but I don't think there's enough information there to tell if he did or didn't.

    Can you replay your live timing app picture map thing?

  • Not sure if thats right actually.there probably is a way to do it with laps completed though

    Ok, Kovaleinen completed the race in 1:37:12.02

    Glock Completed it in 1:37:54.356

    Because Kovaleinen finished first and there was a lap between them in the results he must have lapped the virgin?

  • Because Kovaleinen finished first and there was a lap between them in the results he must have lapped the virgin?

    Fair shout yeah I'll give you that one.

  • now, what breaking story will #GMM make of this :-) - www.autosport.com…o.php/id/13271215

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Although qualifying was somewhat predictable in places, and certainly provided only half the excitement we were looking for, the result has left the potential for a really good race.
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