Live: Germany - Free Practice 2
Published
Free Practice 1 was actually much more interesting than anticipated, plenty of action, some cars unable to stay on track, and even some fans in the grandstands!
Weather Update
There were dark clouds hovering throughout FP1 and we saw some light rain to test the drivers' wits. It didn't pour down though, and it looks like this afternoon will be much of the same.
One to Watch
Webber was the fastest man at the end of the day, but Fisichella was right up there. The Force India car was looking particularly handy at various points through the session, but was it just a one off?
Predictions Please
How many other Germans will fall off the track this afternoon? Will the rain spoil things for the fans? Will Rosberg get to top a timesheet this weekend?
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hello
is justin.tv showing prac. 2???????
i think they keep pulling the feeds.
Bloomin' good question.
is there anywhere else i can watch it???
That HD set top box is looking more on the cards than ever then.
the feed thats always in the same place with the same password is showing it.
not having much luck on that front i'm afraid. will yell if we find anything though.
So please PM to get details - Don't post here thanks!
but they don't show practise on channel one?? do they??? (by the way when did this turn into an aussie chat room??)
you should probably post the url and the email though?
cause i have no idea what you're talking about.
I've been meaning to mention me (for the last year or so) how much I like the font you use here in the comments. It may well be a default one but classy nonetheless.
nope. if you want practice on TV, hop across the Tasman :D :D
'bout march.
i have no idea what it is. must look it up at some point :)
if people bookmark http://www.jus...tworks/formulaone2009 it will have the information they need every single race.
I'm not here.
:)
Speaking of feeds, can anyone tell me where the BBC's feed is? I've lost it...
This is getting like who's on first. Who's not here?
I'm not here!
What, who's not here?
I think that's the idea. It's kinda like Fight Club but cars and stuff.
It hasn't shown up yet. You should be able to get it from bbc.co.uk/f1 when it does
http://news.bb...rmula_one/8143630.stm
might be that one, but who knows until it actually starts.
What's here, Alianora and who aren't here. But Why?
:) :) :)
http://news.bb...rmula_one/8143630.stm
might be that one, but who knows until it actually starts. {me}
Thanks! Looks like the right one.
Why's not here either
Isn't But Why Jenson Button's anonymous sibling?
Where's Either?
Looks like the Melbourne people are getting upset with Max. The politicians have joined in now.
http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/76811
I think i saw him earlier, it was either, or
if anyone can give me the adddy for a livestream of the practise would be much appreciated. Anyone one that complains about the BBC coverage of the formula has no idea how bad we have it in Australia
I noticed on Autosport that Scott Speed qualified on the front row for a NASCAR race.
:)
:P
Here isn't here
the diffuser ted was getting a bit excited about:
http://drop.io...et/macca-diffuser-jpg
Here isn't Either?
another good url to bookmark for streams for any sport is http://www.atdhe.net/ their links aren't always good, but 99% of the time you'll find what you want.
Well, no. Here is gone, according to the Goo Goo Dolls...
BBC feed has just gone live
do we know if only lewis has the new diffuser?
It's not snowing yet apparently...
ooh thats a tight little... diffuser.
Is it a-symetrical? What did ted say about it?
Ants in the pits?
Live timing has reset
Track temp 20C
Air temp 12 C
Wind speed 8.6 m/s
Humidity 59%
Air pressure 942.4 mBar
piquet is taping foam to his ears.
no really. massive squares of foam.
Anyone elses live timing not working?
Can't fit three in the box?
They should probably get a spray or some boiling water or something
I saw it too!
hahahaha :D
WTF?
Detente plunger problem for Adrian Sutil. Sounds rather technical!
18 months in and he still has a helmet that doesn't fit? :D
Try refreshing. It is a poor system and I have had sessions in the past where I never got it to work
Hes tiny though...
Maybe hes gonna jump in someone's car while they arent looking...
Normally in the race there are three in the box. They just don'e let Mark Hughes speak
I was wondering what the thing was with the large turquoise thing was. I hope he doesn't think it's fashionable.
he'll be waving at the team principles "remember me?"
Different box no?
Never heard of it
Ian Phillips reckons the soft will be too soft for the Force India.
i thought he did tv?
Me neither.
:D
If Michael or Ralf commentate do they call it the schu box?
producer jason is up there too. maybe four is a push?
He was always in the ITV box keeping lap charts and the like
:D
Red Bull have a sponsor?
Red Bull Cola and Red Bull Mobile?
One of them will be commentating soon. Somebody said they wouldn't but I reckon it's a Schu in.
who? is it not red bull mobile (apparently they do phones in germany).
Yes. They've had a sponsor since the fourth race they competed in - ironically their first sponsor was Rausch, another drink!
The most bizarre statement I've ever heard
Mobile!???
Sorry what I mean is the radio box is different than the tv box
The Sebastiaen Shuffle gets going...
This i did not know!
branded handsets i think. a vettel phone.
http://www.redbullmobile.at/
we only found out yesterday.
Yes of course
Nakajima goes into the gravel
and keeps on going
Tried. First time its done this to me. Boooo.
Hoiw verry strange...
they have an english site http://www.redbullmobile.com/
We all keep that one in the clipboard ready to paste
speaking of branded mobiles, I don't get why Vodafone haven't released a McLaren branded handset since 2007. I'd so buy one.
Huh, Speed just confirmed from Bourdais's wife that today is his last day, and that Jaime Aguersuari is replacing him.
booo talking over Rob
I meant last weekend.
They really need a way to cut holly's audio.
Rob! 10 minutes of rain?
Rob news
I don't know because they are talking over him
Why would they let him in the car for just one day?
Ooh. Nice big puddle.
did we mention the 5live pics yet:
http://twitpic.com/9vo7q
http://twitpic.com/9vo40
http://twitpic.com/9vo90
I misspoke. I meant last weekend.
And this is, what, a day or two after her hubby denies it?
They'll let him complete the weekend surely?
Only 88.6% of people in Austria speak German
fisi broked it.
no live streaming :(
Gotcha. She'll be in trouble if that's true!
so if thats true, who gets to be third driver?
I posted a link at quarter to that gives you all the information you need. You just need to message the person who says 'message me for the password'
Well now we know who wears the trousers in that relationship...
Maybe they'll get DC back in.
They are awesome... i love ants face.
And i suddenly have the need for some brawn tea...
http://drop.io...sset/donebrokedit-png
hehe.
There's a piece of timing. I'd just posted on the Fisichella Forum that Giancarlo was on slick tyres on a track declared wet and that he'd better be careful... ...when he hit a kerb and crashed. I guess I was a bit late writing it...
Why on earth did Hartley leave the 3rd driver role? Or was he really pushed?
It's because I said he was the one to watch, isn't it?
How does that work? Mid-weekend replacements are forbidden unless the entered driver is medically incapable of completing the weekend.
I used to make cups of tea for a living. I bet doing it in an F1 motorhome was a little more fun than in a hospital.
Actually.... I cant belive they let the brawn 3rd driver be a roving pitlane reporter!
I say yes. He was a tester. The new guy was brought in to replace Bourd
he's undercover. in his brawn jacket.
Keep reading, Alia. ;)
sorry amy wot was the link
????
At least Alguersuari looks like a racing driver rather than a surfer
nice!!!!
Seems silly to say hes leaving then give him one last race... what if he gets on the podium this weekend?
Are the BBC deliberately trying to talk over team radios?
Giancarlo has the third fastest speed trap time. Something tells me it'll be a while before he is demoted from that position - and that what he really needed was more stopping power.
i think so!
Nick Heidfeld has decided to go out on wets.
There's a reason why STR haven't officially announced it yet.
ok here we go
http://www.justin.tv/ferrari_dragon_4
PW:
kers22
I think I am glad I don't have audio by the sounds of it!
It will probably be the cut off date for the perfomance clause in his contract.
Please don't post links or passwords. They just lead to the feed being taken down
ahh, interesting.
Do they really think they'll be able to convince the FIA, given that they can't even convince the FIA to comply with the law yet?
They are allowed to change drivers mid season surely?
Otherwise a team might fire a driver and have to do all the remaining races with 1 driver?
mid race weekend Alia said
What I meant is read on to this post:
Mid-season, yes. Not mid-weekend.
bourdais returns and gets ray gunned for his troubles.
That pit lane warning alarm sounds like a rejected Star Trek sound effect
ah sorry missed that
Well I never. Live timing wasn't working so I downloaded Java (which I haven't done f'r'ages) and whattya know? It works.
Anyone got a link to FP for non-UK folks?
Ooh! Pretty raindrops on green paint...
i used carry that noise around with me in my pocket. i think it was the blue button.
reminds me of the noise the course cars make after track sessions
:D
there are quite a lot in the thread, no idea if they work
It is mentioned a few comments ago. We try not to re-post it too often
sorry guys
is nico on slicks? just waltzed around buemi's inters.
Doohickey keeps switching me to Daily or Free Practice 1 when I'm not looking
sam you r the greatest yyyyyyeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss
Use the lclt and you have control http://www.sid...t.com/livecommenting/
odd. that hasn't happened for ages.
Got it, thanks.
heikki's on the green stripes?
What the. Heikki on super-softs?
Look out for Rosberg!
I've given up trying to work out who is on what this year. I can never see the stripes.
and he's fast :)
quick, screen grab.
:D :D
nico has a wire to his visor today as well.
I dub thee Heikki "purple" Kovalainen
If Who is on What... who is Who on?
Everyone with a Schuberth helmet will have it
Who is What on?
White stripes would have been easier to see AND 42 times less ugly
ahh ok. is it not new then?
seconded.
Painting the entire tyre wall would have been to sensible as well
No. We had a discussion on this a couple of weeks ago when the German Stig's helmet was discussed
Here they come!
That would require more than one marker pen though
missed that (didn't i?). good to know though.
Please don't post the password! PM them and they'll happily provide it!
The reason for this is that it stops the feeds getting closed down...
I thought you were involved in the discussion. The discussion was after the program
i probably was. life is kinda blurry.
who's talking to massa?
Massa has problems with the fast shift on his gearbox. Someone other than Rob talking to him
Sounded Aussie.
fakerobsmedley?
wait... i didn't say that.
Webber No 1.
Chris Dyer?
Chris Dyer.
That guy gets everywhere :P
cheers.
Umm no that was Chris Dyer I believe.
but why?
Not me, I still haven't forgiven him.
damnit!
I refuse to take an easy shot
Rob was fired
That should have been Chris Dyer??
Some compromising photos with Glocks eng.
I wasn't being a smarty to you guys I was saying that to the commentator. :)
Fired? Really? Christine are you okay???
Dyer is the chief track engineer. ;)
He was in the pits during FP1
I don't believe this
If he was fired, which he hasn't been, it would make more sense to ask him that question, wouldn't it?
Or Team Manager according to Wikipedia.
Don't worry, I knew you were kidding.
Apologies.
from brawn twitter:
"Hello fans! We are launching a race blog this week end.Stay tuned on the features section of the website!"
not quite as exciting as we'd hoped then.
Frank Dernie texting five live??
cool!
Hypothetically... If he became PK's engineer would you support him?
I would support Rob, yes.
Hey all! I just got off work, and my F1 app can't seem to find its data. Anybody else in the same boat?
Can we not set Ian Philips adrift in a boat with EJ?
he's less annoying than he was at silverstone.
Honestly at this stage I believe that if Rob became PK's engineer then PK would improve no end.
I agree.
have thrown in the towel on mine. it was working though.
What's that man done said now?
He is winding me up with the nonsense about the only time we ever had overtaking was when someone missed a shift with a manual gearbox. Complete cobblers
No longer a fan?
he said a minute ago, all of f1's problems will be solved by a signing of the concorde agreement in a weeks time.
it crashes every ten minutes. i only have so much patience.
Brawn don't have tyre temperature sensors on the car?
For those au fait with the SofaF1 pole Poll with all the rumours swirling about Bourdais does it surprise you that Jeremy random prediction generator has gone for Bourdais to win!
http://www.sof...ermany-pole-poll.html
it's all I've got on the train. And, well, you guys.
Rubens, is saying he has no grip, team doesn't know why, so they're going to test different things out.
just checked and it is working on mine.
you have to download an update for this race though, i think.
Wouldnt that put the bridgestone men with the thermometers out of work?
Ah... It probably uses a lot of RAM. Did see an interesting stat the other day that while the new 3GS has double the RAM of the old model the important thing is how much space there is for Applications once the OS is loaded.
On the previous phone and touch the OS only left 40Mbs for applications. On the new one there is 150Mbs of space.
Oh of course! Mr. "My team was with FOTA and now is an FIA turncoat buddy" thinks all the problems will just magic away with the signing of a piece of paper - because we know the FIA always keep their promises! ;)
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Yes sorry different Jeremy - whoops!
Guess I'll wait for home, it's too big for mobile.
figures.
Force India, being legally obliged to stick with the FIA no matter what, has to hope for the best (i.e. 13 teams in the FIA series with everyone behaving sensibly). Otherwise there's nothing it can do about it.
Testing if this works from my phone from the bar
Dan Gurney checking tyre deformation - who needs onboard telemetry:
http://i26.tinypic.com/2czen8h.jpg
Proper engineering
I can't believe the Heidfeld to McLaren rumours are back again.
One of my dad's friends got me a fantastic F1 poster. It reads "Epic performance, legendary reliability".
What is depicted on the poster? A 2008 Honda!
Sorry, there's nothing more legally obliging for FIF1 than there is for the other teams IMO. I've heard Vijay and Ian's reasonings and while they sound good, in reality their position is no different to the other teams. They just have less money and must have been told (as with Williams) that they would get an advance if they sided with the FIA.
How many times is the BBC going to mention kangaroo tv today?
That's so 2001...
Epically bad performance, legendary poor reliability?
Adrian's come in second! :D
Technically they work for kangaroo just as much as they do the bbc
5Live is aired on Kangaroo.tv, so it makes sense for them to mention it.
button goes quickest on super-softs.
Well doohickey works perfect, so I will stay tuned in for the rest of practice :-)
MW's sector times look....ummm, wrong.
hey sir. have you lost video again?
They're off by a year. ;)
Radio Le Mans mention it a lot too. Hey, if they pay for your services...
Ian Philips wants to re-write the laws of physics so that smaller drivers don't have an advantage.
There is. Jordan, along with Williams and Ferrari, signed the 2005 agreement that compels them to be in F1 until 2012. A French court has confirmed its validity (albeit with Ferrari's, but Force India signed the same agreement except that it has no technical veto).
They were told they'd get an advance - but that was the 2005 advance, nothing to do with any advance that may or may not be forthcoming in 2009.
Proper Driver!
Did Crofty just say Honda?
Haven't lost video but went for Friday beers :-)
hehe. good plan.
wow FOM must be hot on the heels of those nasty pirates watching FP live on the Internets.
Anyone got another feed?
I wanted Force India to get points one day but the more I hear this guy, the more I hope it never happens.
Fine, but how come Ferrari think they can back out of it then, and what happens now there is a new CA in the works?
We are assuming all has been made public here - considering the backroom deals made with Ferrari I would not be surprised if some more came out in future with Williams and FIF1...
To be fair, there's natural disadvantage and imposing an articificial disadvantage. If there was a minimum weight for the driver/seat combination (while maintaining a minimum car limit), the KERS problem would be easily solved.
liuzzi is barred from gp2?
rob's back.
The smaller driver still has an advantage in the space he takes up and his centre of gravity
super slow-mo show a lot of lateral movement on massa's front wing.
:D
That sounded like Rob on the radio to me
lateral inertia?
All reserve drivers are barred from GP2.
i'd say flexible wing.
once again like the renegade master?
That's the natural advantage. At least it gets rid of the major artificial advantage KERS creates.
prickily ant...
That is the dumbest question ever. Teams should fund reserve drivers in GP2 so that there are experienced drivers available. There is already a grid of drivers in GP2 who have that experience.
What a waste of time - you can't test, you can't race? Just smile and flick your hair for the camera?
power to the people
With the ill behaviour?
didn't work for hartley.
Who arent allowed to take part in F1...
With the ill behaviour.
To be fair, Tonio did do Speedcar and A1GP. Still, it is a bit ridiculous that test drivers can't test (except in a straight line or on a constant radius circuit).
The hair? He makes Rosberg jealous!
The problem is not really KERS it is tyres. The cars are well under weight anyway so the weight of KERS doesn't matter. The only reason that it is an issue this year is the front tyres are stupidly wide compared to the rears so a lot of weight hasto be moved forward.
We seem to have forgotten the D4 damager - whoops.
We better not forget about Dre or there really will be trouble.
And Bassano ;)
Look out for Vettel!
That's quite strange given that Ian Phillips has just been telling us the base weight of the Force India is only about 535kg...
You just put ballast on the bottom of the seat instead of where they usually put it - under the seat.
bridgestone already tested narrower spec fronts, did the not?
All of the car have been massively underweight for years
You dont know how much of that is fixed ballast
Are they in for 2010 now the rules have been repealed though?
yup.
who the chuff knows?
They wanted to but they are not allowed to because of the testing ban. So teams have to design cars for tyres that Bridgestone cab't give them specs for. That is really going to work well
Exactly :(
Who knows
Well theirs apparently isn't. Why else are they in a situation where they were considering running it on one car and not the other?
is that a nickname? :P
I liked Mr. C's answer better ;)
The way that car is performing? Not much...
I'll consult the scriptures, there must be something in Revelations.
:P
Assuming Mr. Phillips isn't telling porkies! Do you think he'd reveal something like that?
Rain coming again!
rain with 20mins remaining.
Philips you moron. Danica's earning power has nothing to do with her results
Given that the information he gave wasn't especially flattering, I think he'd have to be telling the truth. What commercial director is going to deliberately say worse stuff about their team than is actually the case?
He shall rule them with a rod of iron.
Revelation, 2. 27
Mmmhhh... doesn't look like Max will be removed that easily then
She could run Kers...
It does. Her earning power is higher in America than Europe because the results needed to get the same money in Europe are much higher ;)
i dunno, he has a point. f1 doesn't have the marketing sense to know what to do with her. she'll make much more money in the US.
Dunno, but Schumi used to always play down his chances didn't he?
good lord, the toyota wing moves around like clown car.
I think Timo Glock's got a damaged front wing. Either that or there's a legality issue..
At least Philips isn't sexist - he's just naive...
That endplate must be stalling if it is closing the gap that much
:D
Also, he's playing to fans like you Alia. He knows that people follow FIF1 as 'the underdog' so by playing down their chances, they become 'that plucky small team that everyone likes' when they get something out of it...
force india are barring employees from the factory during the break?
I have no idea how much she is earning, but i can imagine she is earning more than F1 drivers with the sponsor she currently has
Well given what Jenson had to say about her years back, perhaps it's a non-issue. She's not a good fit, shall we say?
Not by telling porkies against himself though. Either he'd say it was going to be tough (because he was thinking relative to his own performances, not relative to the grid) or he'd up-play his rivals. He wouldn't say he was going to be slow.
Bonjour!
That is true. There is more prize money on offer - especially in NASCAR. I'll bet Montoya earns more than he did in F1 and he's ... midfield at best...
They arent the most fan friendly plucky team...
I dont feel for them the same way i have supported small teams in the past
'ello! I was just talking about you ;)
Ferrari's was flexing so much in preseason testing they broke it on the kerbs - would love to see it in super slo mo
you made it!
ca va?
You didnt get sucked into the Bermuda triangle then...
Do you have FP2?
really? last i checked, kimi was making more money than danica. that said, kimi's gotten better results. but still...
oui, ca va?
Brekkie's arrived. Back soon
They weren't playing down their chances though - they were explaining why they are one of several teams who have one driver more suited to KERS than the other.
Anyway, I'm off to the wedding. Have fun over here!
kimis salary isn't quite grid average though :D
he gets paid way too much money. no-one will make that mistake twice.
No way.. the drivers get paid mainly though their merchandising... and i dont see a plethoura of Juan the man Nascar fans...
Enjoy the say Alianora
bye alia.
ca va bien merci et vu?
Those are some mighty dark clouds near the circuit.
day not say
There may be more prize money on offer, but are their salaries close to the ones they hand out in F1? Not so sure on that count.
I think that should be vous not vu. Vu is seen
Have a good day...
...dont object!
-ing of the vows
lewis spin?
Lewis off
Should be interesting to find out how much Ferrari would pay Alonso (or Vettel, for that matter).
Oh ok - apologies then. I can't listen to what he said here, so I was just guessing.
vous. Oui. Cest Vrai!
Un petit peu
Enjoy!
Dunno off-hand, but if you listen to Midweek Motorsport and 'The race for the chase for the cup for the thing', the top 12 drivers in NASCAR are in the Millions already and it's only midseason...
£30 mil seems to be the new standard
lo siento, no entiendo
Slow in fast ou
out
[Danica] is at the height of her earning power..."
I don't know, plastic surgery can keep her going
Ooh.. a line comparison that made vettel look bad.
That guys gonna get fired...
Spreken ze English?
those mcalren upgrades really look to be working.
Hi all!
Anyone with a proper stream on here?
Thank G.. I mean Yay!
Drat, it won't let me type Japanese
what good mercedes pr ;)
don't they usually look good on friday, only to slip backwards on saturday?
alonso sitting out the last dash.
hmm looks like FR team FP2 are going to need a lot of changes.
yeah, the have in the past. the bodywork looks burnt to pieces at the rear!
unfortunately yes. I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.
poor button... go the Lewham
I just love the Lewis - Kovie spread. Who's the better indicator?
nice one. cheers everyone for joining in today.
we'll be back later with plenty of podcasting goodness.
PK twittering from the track...
piquet broke it.
Piquet remembered to go off.
:)
Lewis has a new wing, new bodywork and a new floor with the new clever diffuser and Heikki has no new toys
Until tomorrow folks. :-)
#SorryAmy?
3rd place 4 hundredths behind Vettel isn't poor.
Is all that good for a second and a half? Or are they just running Lewis on fumes?
Ari Vatanen has confirmed that he will run for the presidency
Who knows. Lewis didn't look especially happy
Renault engine having electrical troubles...
Will be something to watch for on Sunday
I reckon he was on fumes to top the times at Mercedes home race at least once.
Go Ari !!!!!!!!
How long until you can buy the campaign T-shirt?
Hamilton was paying $34 to top FP2. Should've put a $10 punt on him and gone home $330 richer :D
Maybe, but the Beemers and other germanic drivers probably all did the same
Ari is standing due to requests from many FIA member clubs. I love that line
http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/76819
Save that Brawn actually have a chance of winning something.
Is Todt his Deputy?
See you all tomorrow.
I wonder if there is some rule about major announcement being made on the Friday of a GP weekend.
Someone has to spoil the excitement don't they? :-)
Owing to Max's insane rules he has to name the 22 members of his cabinet before the election. It will be interesting to see how many of the incumbents will stand by Max and how many will stab him in the back and jump to Vatanen's side.
Untill i see something to get excited about...
Whats the old saying... Better the devil you know...
If Vatanen submits his 22 first is it Max who has to go away and make the changes? (Well, ignoring the fact that Max would probably fiddle with the mail)
but...but....but.....HE'S FINNISH
You're not excited about change? Change is coming to the FIA! :)
That doesn't make any sense in this case.
It takes them a few years to turn into devils, Max was a welcome change. They should be limited to two terms.
I remember being excited when Max won because it meant the end of Balestre. Of course max wasn't Finnish and Ari is not in Bernie's pocket
Probably... But if todt gets put in charge of f1... the spot will die
They were... until Max got the rule changed...
I'm completely unconvinced Todt will get a look in a Vatanen presidency. For all we know, it might be Todt running against Vatanen rather than Mosley.
Todt won't be anywhere near Ari's cabinet. He is tainted goods thanks to Max
How did Max fail to get a rule about candidates having to have the written permission of the incumbent president as well?
Agreed.
I think Max knew what he could and couldn't get away with.
Todt doesn't want to only be deputy.
Is it just me or does he, in that Autosport picture, look quite a bit like Max?
Maybe Max has cloned himself?
Scary!
Well, that's enough for me. Wife will be home soon - don't need the earful. See ya tomorrow!
There is a similarity.
Has anybody ever seen both of them in the same room???
Steven...
Do you own this yet?
http://www.ama...1247233195&sr=8-1
Glock's race engineer has left the team. Looks like we are in for a big technical shuffle round the teams
http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/76820
If I buy a luna module I will hire a mechanic to look after it.
lunar.
It would have been more useful for Apollo 13 owners
I'm currently 3 episodes in to 'From the Earth to the Moon' on DVD - plan to watch no.6 around July 21st...
Are you legaly obliged to have a garden to go on gardening leave, or do you think you could get away with an allotment?
Don't know if this lot are geolocked. http://www.bbc...nlandings/index.shtml
Of course it is. One day, BBC, Vengeance shall be mine!!!
More importantly than Todt, I wonder what favours he can do his old mate Dave Richards
Ari Vatenen that is
Positive thinking from ClubForce on Twitter
Ignore the 20th and 20th :-)
Aussie in the lead!
Apparently PK's job is on the rocks as well..
http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/76847
I wonder if he should be trying to make sure he finishes in front of alonso or behind him? :P
*waves*
evening
Oh ok – apologies then. I can’t listen to what he said here, so I was just guessing. {Comment #359}
It's OK. It's difficult to put the proper context for quotes, or even to figure out what parts of the contexts need to be posted with the quotes, when under pressure from live commenting. Besides, it passed an otherwise-dull ten minutes ;)
I have to admit it still strikes me as slightly odd that Ian went so far as to give enough information to calculate figures...
Piquet remembered to go off. {Comment #385}
I was wondering when that was going to happen. I wonder if there was anyone in the grandstand who was too busy taking notes to see it live?
How long until you can buy the campaign T-shirt? {Comment #397}
If someone has contact details for him, I'd be delighted to ask (and to help do the T-shirt design)...
If Vatanen submits his 22 first is it Max who has to go away and make the changes? (Well, ignoring the fact that Max would probably fiddle with the mail) {Comment #408}
No, because the list is simply who'd be doing what post-election. If someone appears on both lists I imagine both sides will put a lot of pressure on that individual, but there would be no clashes because a maximum of one of the individuals can be elected into the Presidency at a time.
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